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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The truth is that the upper middle class (today's equivalent of Democrats) wanted to enjoy the fruits of slavery too. Lincoln needed the support of the abolitionists (today's leftists) or he would have probably never gone to war.

[–] mindbleach@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That second one is jawdropping, mostly for how familiar its tone seems in modern discourse, and for narrowly missing calling anyone "uppity."

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that Fox News saves money by recycling old opinion pieces.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have to rehash the old shit because they stand in opposition to people trying to do anything new. Gay/trans rights for example. They've been regurgitating the same tired rhetoric since the 60s (and probably earlier than that in some form). Conservatives have to fall back on old strategies because doing anything different would be progress

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the Romans executed people for arbitrary reasons as well. Hierarchies need scapegoats and a criminal class to keep the middle class subdued.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Notable "leftists" including wealthy landowner Cassius Clay: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Marcellus_Clay_(politician)

Or secretary of the (very leftist) US Treasury Salmon Chase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_P._Chase

You know, leftists

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a natural tendency for authoritarians to select individuals as representatives of movements. It's easier to slander individuals than ideas, and it aligns with their beliefs in heroes and villains.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you saying these people were authoritarians?

Or are you calling me authoritarian since I'm laughing at the idea that leftism was common among abolitionists?

Because I'm just correct. Sorry it hurts your commie-feels or whatever.

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm accusing you of cherry picking negative examples to reinforce your narrative. There is no confusing abolitionism if you have enough integrity to understand what the word means. It's easy to pick examples of people who lack integrity so that you can taint a movement with the sins of the individual. I can tell all I need to know about your beliefs from your tactics.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's not a sin to not be a leftist. It's a plus.