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Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 59 points 6 months ago (22 children)

I don’t see the problem with people having communist views…capitalism isn’t great.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 62 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Yeah, the problem is that you have instances like Hexbear and Lemmy.ml that tread more into tankie territory, where if you argue anything less than the complete annihilation of the West and hail China, you're likely to get harassed. I think rational people can agree that there's a pretty gap between "The current system is corrupt" and "anyone who thinks differently than me should die,' but I've seen plenty of irrational leftists.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Came here to make this point.
The CCP's version of "communism" is almost a textbook example to me of how an interesting system that can work beautifully on the local level can be completely betrayed and turned in to something much more like an oligarchy.

I don't understand how someone of reasonable knowledge and judgement could possibly be a tankie in 2024.

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Even if you adopt hardline Marxism-Leninism-Maoism as an ideology, the modern state of China has applied so much pro-capitalist revisionism to it that it's a shell of its former self. Today, Maoist parties are suppressed in China.

I'm not a Maoist by a long shot, but I can at least appreciate the fact that the ones shouting "revisionism!" the most are the ones who have most bastardized their own texts.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it’s a shell of its former self.

And from my reading, its former self was little more than a dictatorship with 'communist trappings,' anyway. Mao was a monster, and nobody to be emulated from what I've learned.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

He killed more people than almost anyone else in history. Maybe the most.

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