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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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includes considerable nonspecific shit-talking of assigned EA enemies, including - horrors! - Timnit Gebru talking about the social issues of the actually-existing AI-industrial complex. also it's not a CASTLE it's a MANOR HOUSE, you fools, you rubes,

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 22 points 4 months ago (12 children)

The problem with this type of criticism is that for the most part it’s usually pretty lazy. If you just want to make people laugh, there’s no need to be charitable or high-effort. The average r/sneerclub post consisted of finding something seemingly absurd or offensive said by a rationalist and then mocking it. The resulting threads are obviously biased and not epistemically rigorous. Like, Wytham abbey was technically a manor house, but “EA gets a castle” is objectively a funnier meme. There are sometimes good arguments in there (I think my old sneerclub posts weren’t terrible), but they’re not the point of the community, and you shouldn’t expect them to be common.

@titotal@awful.systems hey I spend whole minutes crafting sneers, how dare ya call me lazy!

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

also its COMPLETELY WRONG to say that they blew millions in charitable donations on buying a castle. they blew millions in charitable donations on buying two castles

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For the sake of a yudzillion dust specks, what’s another castle?

[–] Collectivist@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It was a chateau in the Czech Republic

It wasn't CEA/EV like with the other 'castle', but it was an organization that had its own tag on the EA forum, so at the very least EA-aligned.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

it was a different EA org

a mere tumbledown cottage in a sleepy czech village!

(literally the news story calls it a "castle" in czech)

but let me correct myself: it's COMPLETELY WRONG to say that they blew millions in charitable donations of money stolen from FTX customers on buying a castle. they blew millions in charitable donations of money stolen from FTX customers on two castles

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

LOL

I also couldn't find this chateau on any website

Well this was probably before the story in irozhlas.cz. It looks like a nice place

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