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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/14827116

South Korean military set to ban iPhones over ‘security’ concerns

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why the quotes? It's closed source = it's a security concern. What I hope is that they do make or contribute to an opensource secure phone project. Would be great if it were a linux phone.

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[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Why the quotes?

If you ever see quotation marks in a headline, it simply means they're attributing the word/phrase to a particular source. In this case, they're saying that the word "security" was used verbatim in the intranet document. Scare quotes are never used in journalism, so they're not implying anything by putting the word in quotation marks. They're simply saying that they're not paraphrasing.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their security concern is that iPhones won’t let a third party app take control of phone capabilities at a very low level. They want to use an in-house app to stop people from recording audio or video based I assume from the article on geofencing.

The way you’d do that with iPhones is most likely through mdm.

It’s not that iPhones aren’t secure, it’s that the rok military can’t control them with its spyware.

Reading between the lines, it’s not like no one knows that. It’s a good opportunity to gently suggest people working in high security positions (who make higher grade salaries on average!) ditch their iPhones for Samsung models. No need to run a mdm shop and you juice a national company.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s not that iPhones aren’t secure, it’s that the rok military can’t control them with its spyware.

How is MDM not classified as spyware when the military wants to have the same or deeper level of control?

Reading between the lines, it’s not like no one knows that. It’s a good opportunity to gently suggest people working in high security positions (who make higher grade salaries on average!) ditch their iPhones for Samsung models. No need to run a mdm shop and you juice a national company.

Well, it makes sense, doesn't it? Relying on closed source stuff from other nations, especially nations known for spying (after Snowden there's no denying that), isn't exactly secure.

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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I guess a person could claim mdm is spyware, but by extension group policy and maybe even selinux would fall in the same category.

It’s worth keeping in mind that the distinction is made in comparison to actual software separate from the os that is being used to keep tabs on the device location and gate access to hardware. Possibly one of the most literal types of spyware I’ve ever seen.

We should also recognize that Samsung isn’t shipping fully open stock roms and the open or closed source nature of software coming from a company headquartered in an ally’s territory doesn’t matter near as much as their military presence on rok soil.