simple, don't use an antivirus, stick to windows defender (before the linux crowd comes in yes I know there are basically no viruses threatening you chill), your own brain, and also not an admin account!

Don't download shady shit, and if your PC asks you for some mysterious admin permission - the answer is "no". If something does slip through windows defender will most likely handle it no problem!

[–] lengau@midwest.social 11 points 7 months ago

Ugh Linux... I tried so hard to get viruses working in wine but in the end I gave up. Full compatibility my ass...

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.one 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Linux gets viruses too (see recent xz-utils vulnerability that almost got into production environments) and its kind of a shame that corporate antivirus software like Norton and McAfee end up ruining the reputation of antiviruses. In theory the idea of having a software that can scan for common viruses is a great way to increase security, even if it shouldn't replace common sense. I'm not too sure if there are any good FOSS antiviruses, but if there aren't there should be.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

good FOSS antiviruses

ClamAV is the Linux antivirus library I'm most familiar with.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I used to have it on my Raspberry Pi to test some shady files. Besides of the Linux thing, they'd also need to get around the fact I was running things on AArch64, which is a rare combination. Maybe Windows on AArch64 would have been an even safer choice.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we'll never be a 100% safe, no matter what OS we use. We can't defend ourselves against backdoors and newly abused vulnerabilities in any meaningful way

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's partially my point. You can never be 100% safe, but there's a lot you can do to increase your safety besides just relying on intuition (edit: because intuition is usually the weakest link, see social engineering/phishing tactics). Anti viruses (when they aren't just bloatware) are part of that.

Your second point about not meaningfully defending against backdoors and vulnerabilities is kind of against the point. You can totally defend against backdoors by not giving apps admin privileges, limiting network access, etc. so that damage can be limited even if an exploit happens. Then, if some backdoor or exploit is discovered, it's only as dangerous as the permissions you give that app.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

oh i meant backdoors and vulnerabilities in the OS itself, hah, i'm pretty sure the system has all the permissions