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A curious math problem I came up with: given a target, what's the fewest digits an integer must have (in a given base) to contain all integers from 0 to the target, as substrings? (sociale.network)

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A curious math problem I came up with: given a target, what's the fewest digits an integer must have (in a given base) to contain all integers from 0 to the target, as substrings?

http://wok.oblomov.eu/mathesis/number-substrings/

@mathematics @math@lemmy.ml @math@kbin.social

e.g. for a target of 19 a candidate representative would be 1011213141516171819 in base 10, that has 19 digits. Can it be done in less, or is $\sigma_10(19) = 19$?
Can we find a general rule? Any properties of this function?

#math #maths #numberTheory #combinatorics

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[–] oblomov@sociale.network 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@mrdk @mathematics @math@lemmy.ml @math@kbin.social
oh, interesting. It's definitely related, although we allow different substrings to start at the same place, and this has a huge impact on the lengths (also it's not cyclic in our case, but that probably makes things worse).

[–] oblomov@sociale.network 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@mrdk @mathematics @math@lemmy.ml @math@kbin.social also this might explain why @mau saw some relation to Gray codes in the binary case.

[–] mau@frenfiverse.net 1 points 7 months ago

@oblomov well, a Gray code codes all n-bit sequences from 000...0 to 111...1. It's a bit overkill (we don't need the sequence with all 0) but probably the overhead is just 1.

Cc: @mrdk @mathematics @math@lemmy.ml @math@kbin.social