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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is a bad take. Software updates that fix life threatening defects are as serious as any recall.

It's motivated reasoning. Either the people making this argument are Tesla owners, simps, or shareholders and are trying to protect the phantasmagorical value of the company.

Saying "my car's drive-by-wire software gets more firmware updates than my printer" is not a flex.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, it’s an extremely popular sentiment on the internet to scoff at software update related recalls as if they “don’t count.” 9 times out of 10 the person making the claim is a Muskrat, because this is a very common thing with Teslas and daddy Elon must be defended at all costs but every now and then they’re just a run of the mill moron unwittingly parroting Muskrat talking points.

A recall is a recall whether the issue can be patched OTA or whether you have to drive to a dealership so they can spend 30mins swapping a random seemingly inconsequential part. The specific mechanics of the solution do not change the fact that a problem required a recall to be issued to consumers. Perpetuating the notion that these recalls should be considered “less important than a real recall” is dangerous to the point of stupidity.

[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

This is a bad take. Software updates that fix life threatening defects are as serious as any recall.

Rereading the original comment, I didn’t get the implication they were trying to say a software update “recall” is less serious. The word “recall” literally means “to bring back.” So fundamentally, calling a software update a “recall” doesn’t make sense because you aren’t bringing your car anywhere.

As a car owner, now when you hear your car has a recall you have to find out if you need to take it into a service center or just update it at home. It would be better if these software recalls went by some different, new name that immediately conveyed what you need to do.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, because the recall for the icons on the screen needing to be a tad bigger is as serious as uncontrolled acceleration of a giant hunk of metal.

They need a new name for software update recalls and physical recalls. They both need to be serious, but a distinction is needed.

[–] Gatsby@discuss.online 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You understand that recalls for minor non life-threatening issues were a thing before cars were even capable of receiving software updates right?

This is not a new practice. This is what a recall entails. The term isn’t being arbitrarily applied. It’s a recall.