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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

man you really don’t see them as human beings do you?

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not it at all.

I love travelling and I love going to see other cultures. But I also love my own country and I love how other countries are also their own.

The question is what do you want for your country. Do you care more about big business, increasing GDP growth, lower wages for more competitive industry? Or do you want that's best for the people of that country. I care more about the people.

Immigrations isn't and hasn't been good for the UK. If you actually travel if you actually move around the country or move around other countries it becomes blindly apparent there are some really unfortunate truths about immigration. I don't want a Muslim influence in cities I've live in, that's not my culture, I am atheist anyway so I don't like anything like that. And I have done that. Lived in places where people look at your like you don't belong because you are white. But if other people want to have that culture they can feel free, but why should I be happy about them coming to my country and changing things about my country that isn't my country? That's not to say I'm against immigration but the reason is why? We need to talk clearly about the type of immigration that is good and they type that is bad. Similar cultures like the EU with the back and forth good. Third world immigration where wages are kept low, population increasing and isolated communities that don't integrate? Not good.

I got nothing against these people I wish them all the best. But I think we should be making a better country for the people, they should work on the same. We haven't got to set ourselves on fire to keep others warm.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i care about people… countries are a construct that we created, and often we use them as a bludgeon to make ourselves feel superior

you’re not superior to an eastern european fleeing russian aggression

you’re not superior to a mexican fleeing gang violence

you’re not superior to an african fleeing civil war

you’re not superior to a palestinian fleeing bombing

these people are all people. the fact that you live in a country where you do is luck; not superiority

heck, immigrants are what FORM local culture… without infusions of new ideas, culture stagnates

mexican immigration brought us tex mex; italian immigration brought us pizza… there are countless examples of how immigration has formed the local culture of a country. in the colonial world, outside of europe, we are entirely built from the culture of immigrants

also

Lived in places where people look at your like you don't belong because you are white. But if other people want to have that culture they can feel free, but why should I be happy about them coming to my country and changing things about my country that isn't my country?

that’s basically replacement theory right there, which is just plain horrific

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I didn't say I was superior.

Of course countries are constructed. By people with shared views and common goals. Countries have been formed over a long period of time with a lot of struggle.

It's not luck that I live in my country. I was born from my parents, there was no chance I could have been born elsewhere. I came into a country hard won by my ancestors, some fought and some died making my country what it is. So don't shit on their legacy. They worked hard for a better country for me to live in. Show some respect.

Immigrants don't form countries, the countries were always there. Sure if you think America is the world you might believe that. But short of thinking America is the whole world that is obviously not true.

that’s basically replacement theory right there, which is just plain horrific

What? Lol. What are you actually saying here? Because it sounds like you are saying areas that were previously entirely white now still are? Like you don't accept that non white people live in areas where whites used to live?

That's a new level of woke if you believe that. That's arguing with basic census statistics.