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An Australian museum excluded men from an exhibit to highlight misogyny. A man sued for access and won.

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[–] norbert@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The concept of “white” as a race dates back to WW2, at most.

Wow I'll make sure to tell all my black friends, I'm sure that'll endear me to them.

When the Irish immigrated to the US, they were considered equivalent to black people by Americans and competed for the same jobs.

Well, this is just completely false, you're completely disconnected from reality. Irish were never blocked from whites-only schools were they? Irish people were never subject to interracial marriage laws afaik. Were any Irish ever entirely excluded from being able to immigrate to the U.S.? I know it's popular among certain groups to pretend certain Europeans faced the same disadvantages as formerly enslaved African-Americans but frankly it's incredibly insulting and tone deaf as fuck.

Theory is fine you guys but you need to actually go out into the world and interact with people sometimes.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am...unclear on what you're actually arguing about. You went from arguing that white people are oppressed for being white and/or that white as a unified race wasn't the invention of racism to separate the white European ethnicities from black people, to straw-manning me to argue that white people were never oppressed the same way black people have been (and continue to be).

Both me and the OP are saying that the idea of a single "white" race was the invention of racists. To separate white Europeans from other people. Before the white supremacists coined the term white as a race, your race was French, Swedish, Irish, British, Russian, etc. White is just a label to lump all these Europeans from disparate cultural backgrounds who hated each other's guts together to form a unified front against "the savage black man" and "the Asian menace."

And nobody has ever been oppressed for being white. When was the last time you heard of somebody being passed over for a job because they were too white, or the cops going around arresting all the white people off the streets. White people probably suffer the same treatment as other foreigners in xenophobic countries, but they're not singled out for being white.

[–] norbert@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not arguing anything, just pointing out some bullshit.

What bullshit? Do you think that white people are oppressed? Or that the idea of white as a race wasn't the product of a bunch of racists who wanted to prove the superiority of white people over black people?

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

my black friends

I was wondering when—not if—you were going to pull "I have Black friends".

[–] norbert@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cool thought-terminating cliche too bad you didn't actually address anything I said.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] norbert@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago

Like your mom when we run a train on her?