Unfortunately having more choices doesn't necessarily mean people get any smarter. In Finland we have about 20-ish registered political parties (in a country of 5 million) and we now have a far right government that lied its way into power, gutted our welfare system, destroyed public healthcare, significantly weakened worker protection from getting fired spuriously, made political strikes illegal to stop people protesting them, and has multiple literal neo-Nazis in it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Do you guys think you're suffering from an external propaganda force as well? I'll put my tin foil hat on for this, but It really seems like all this extreme right wing bullshit spreading around the "western world" is happening to destabilize countries as an act of "information warfare."

Or it's the usual grifters gotta grift and we keep falling for greedy assholes that want easy money and political power. :(

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We're fairly conservative compared to the rest of the Nordics, so it's probably just a case of Finns being complete fucking imbeciles as per usual. It's even been a running joke here that Russia doesn't have to do anything to us, we're perfectly capable of fucking up the country ourselves.

And it's not likely to get any better either. The under-25's are more conservative than millennials or even Gen X

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago

Ouch, sorry to hear that. I hope for the best for you folks though!!

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait, 5 million people had 20 different choices, and y'all picked the nazis? How the fuck did that happen?

My point is that Americas system is fucked, and has been for a while.

Idk if any country right now has a foolproof system, or if that even exists in this word, but what we are doing isn't working.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, 5 million people had 20 different choices, and y’all picked the nazis? How the fuck did that happen?

Too many Nazis here, and I'm not being facetious.

The best ("best") part is that one minister essentially had to resign because he's a Nazi, so the extremist right wing party (well, one of them…) replaced him with a pedophile Nazi. Somehow he hasn't been forced to resign. I guess part of it is that he's more "smart" about his Nazism and doesn't do it as openly as the other dude, and reich-wingers say that he's not a pedophile because he didn't get convicted, but that's only because cops couldn't (or, more likely, wouldn't) prove anything except that he had asked eg. teenagers out on dates, called them sexy etc etc but none of that is illegal.

Honestly this country is incredibly fucked up and in case anybody was planning to visit I recommend staying the fuck away, there's better vacation spots with fewer Nazis.

But yeah, I don't think any system of government will work. Humans are just way too shitty on average

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whats the age of consent over there?

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

16, looks like. Why?

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cause in america its 18, so technically fins are already pedophiles if they legally hookup with a 16 year old. Its crazy pedophilia is subjective

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago

And then there's the chuds who go "ackchually it's not pedophilia it's ephhpehehehbebehophilia" when the kids are past puberty.

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How would more choices make anyone more aware of news? This is just an ignorance issue.

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Well if there were more choices, maybe the people that actually give a fuck would vote someone besides red or blue into power.

Oh wait.....

The system is fucked. Let me know when they come up with one that is an actual reflection of what people want, not this electoral college, gerrymandering bullshit. Oh and one that doesn't allow legal insider trading, superpacs, lobbying and spending and unmeasurable sum of money on alien recovery projects, Mk ultra, remote viewing and all of the other things they spend tax payers money on.

How about we just take money out of politics?

Get real.

Besides all of that, if we had a system that actually went off popular vote, maybe the people that come up with backasswards laws like this wouldn't have been in power in the first place.