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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

POSIX shells are horrible unmaintainable bug factories.

shellcheck is not enough to make them safe programming languages. They are acceptable only in an interactive context.

Having anything encourage people to write POSIXy shell scripts is a design flaw.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Continue your ranting on some OpenBSD (uses /bin/ksh in init scripts) mailing list ?

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't think those are better or worse. My point isn't about some ancient far too limiting standard, but about how easy it is to wreck everything by not knowing some obscure syntactical rule. My issue is about implicit conversion between strings and arrays, about silently swallowing errors and so on. And the only shell languages that I know aren't idiotic are nushell and Powershell.

That KDE theme that nuked some user’s home directory? Used a bash script. That time the bumblebee graphics card switching utility deleted /var? Bash script. Any time some build system broke because of a space in a path: bash/ZSH/... script.

Why would anyone make an init system based on shell scripts these days?

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, please. I've got plenty of popcorn for everybody.