Say what you will about Microsoft, lemmys, but Windows Phone 10 had great performance and battery life. It's a shame that it was nuked because MS couldn't bring themselves to go all the way on the Android bridge.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm a mobile developer and back around 2011 I was hoping like hell that Windows Phone would make it big. When you look at Xcode (for iOS), Eclipse (for Android and Blackberry) and MS Visual Studio (for Windows Mobile and Windows Phone) for mobile development, there was absolutely no comparison - it was Visual Studio all the fucking way. But Microsoft just decided to completely shit the bed and give up on mobile altogether. I still don't get it.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Around that time WebOS (under Palm) had the Mojo SDK, it was pretty slick.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've heard nothing but good things about WebOS but I never got the chance to try it out.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I loved it, it's a shame that phone failed to find it's market. Luckily Matias Duarte eventually incorporated the best parts into android. Swipe navigation is almost identical to webos

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They also messed up Nokia before killing Windows Phone. Nokia's Symbian used to be a serious competition to android.

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Symbian was a fantastic OS, but it never competed with Android in any meaningful way. Nokia was already circling the drain when Microsoft bought them and first Windows phones (Lumias) were fucking awesome. And then fucking moron Nadella killed Windows Phone.

[–] balp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Windows Lumina phone was a battery-draining buggy version with a smaller screen than the Linux version N9, When they turned that into Windows (Lumina 800), they had to use a smaller screen and less memory as Windows couldn't handle the hardware as MeeGo could.

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

N9 was perfect in every way except that it was abandoned. I miss that phone every day I use Android

[–] balp@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yet, that is the real Linux phone killer move by the former, Microsoft CEO for Nokia. Also the move that killed Nokia phones.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When Microsoft bought Nokia, Steve Balmer (ex-Microsoft) was at Nokia helm. His work with Nokia was so much in the interest of Microsoft that he was rewarded with head chair of Microsoft not much time later.

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 7 months ago

You mean Elop? Ballmer was MS CEO when MS bought Nokia, but they were doing fairly well in the beginning. Fucking moron Nadella took over and killed Windows mobile. Despite publically admitting later that it was a mistake, he's still a fucking moron.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago

And MeeGo as well, which was a more modern base and even better UX than Windows Mobile in my opinion.

[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nokia's Symbian was shit and you're the only person I've ever heard saying anything positive about it. To be a serious competitor to Android or IOS you need to have as much apps on the store and Symbian had very few.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

I am saying that it was probably sabotaged by Microsoft leaning leadership at Nokia.

Also, despite being Linux core, Android itself was shit in the beginning. Gingerbread (G) was the first edition that won favour with buyers. Hardly any takers of android for its first six versions (A to F). Not even the techy nerds were buying Eclairs.

Around 20 years ago, iOS used to outclass everything by a big margin. Android, Nokia/Symbian, RIM, etc were closer to each other than to Apple. And now ...

As of 2024, fresh competition to android is needed.