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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 111 points 7 months ago (3 children)

No country or government has a "right" to exist. They're given that ability to exist by the people they're supposed to serve. If the system is not serving the people, it shouldn't exist.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical electoral ceremony.

If I declared myself chancellor because a bunch of my friends voted for me they'd put me a way.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What if some watery tart threw a sword at you?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That depends. How watery are we talking?

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The problem is, it's a practical impossibility for the masses to mandate anything. There are way over 300 million people in the U.S. (for example), there is no practical way for a majority of them to mandate anything without going through channels put there by those in power which limit the scope of conversation as well as choices.

Anyone claiming a mandate from the people is really claiming successful control of oppressive systems.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

Totally agree. Government starts getting worse the bigger a population it tries to govern.

But if I say "who wants pizza" and an entire kindergarten class says "Me!" then I'd call that a mandate from the masses.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. The United States is doing a piss-poor job serving the people, and while that may be due how the country was shaped during colonialism, it is not due to its ongoing colonialism. It's a totally different situation than Israel.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

For established states like the US, it's more due to neocolonialism now