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[–] avonarret1@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I intend to believe people who speak out about their experiences. Victims had it hard enough and should be heard and trusted. People with similar experiences or supporting the claims almost always follow anyway.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you're an idiot.

The most recent is the cancellation of super mega. Matt came out with screenshots showing that everything the "victims" said was a lie.

Remember Gus Johnson being cancelled? He didn't do any of the things Sabrina accused him of.

Remember Pro Jared being cancelled by his wife and the cheater Hollie? He came out with a video debunking everything showing he was innocent and his wife and Hollie weren't.

Maybe you should let both sides speak before "believing people who speak out about their experiences". You're the problem.

[–] avonarret1@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what you're speaking about and I'm not particularly inclined to look after these examples. The first thing you did was to insult me. Do you expect somebody to talk to you after that, in any meaningful way anyway?

We live in a patriarchy, women are grossly underrepresented and sexism is still the norm. So, yes, I give women the benefit of the doubt, because the history of women being abused is nothing new and the amount of that happening even today is not tolerable.

What I never wrote was that you have to believe everything at face value and to take out the pitch fork to manslaughter the oppressors.
Of course both sides should be heard. That is the whole point. Then problem is that victims are at a disadvantage, so it is important to take them seriously and to hear them.

People denying, downplaying or discouraging is what the problem is. People in power abusing people with no power is what the problem is.

But yeah, tell me that I'm the problem. Go on and call me an Idiot. I don't care. You could've written that what I wrote was wrong and why. We could have had a meaningful discussion. You chose not to.

You say that both sides should be heard but are not doing so yourself.