I have previously written a lot of code that is hosted on a public repo on GitHub, but it never had a license. It was written as part of my work while working for a non-commercial academic entity, and I would like to add a license before the link to the repo will be included in something that will be made public, potentially attracting one or two visitors.

This leaves me with a couple of questions:

Can I just add a license after the fact and it will be valid for all prior work?
Do I have to make sure the license is included in all branches of the repo, or does this not matter? There are for instance a couple of branches that are used to freeze the state of code at a certain time for reproducibility's sake (I know this could be solved in a better way, but that's how it is).
I have myself reused some of the code in my current work for a commercial entity (internal analysis work, only distributed within the organization). Should this influence the type of license I choose? I am considering a GPL-license, but should I go with (what I believe to be) a more permissive license like MIT because of this?

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I am not a lawyer. I am a software dev. My understanding of this is solely based on projects going from open source to source available/more commercial licenses (Redis, Mongo, Elastic etc)

The license change won’t apply retroactively - I am not sure theres a legal way to retroactively change licenses and terms? I am recalling back to the Unity runtime fee, which they wanted to apply retroactively, but there was a lot of noise/discussion on whether it was legal to even do this.
Once you have main released version of the repo that contains the license you want to use going forward, any branches from that point should contain license by default? Since its just a file in the main branch.
Since you are using it commercially, and want to change the license for future versions, you will absolutely want to discuss this with whatever entity is using it. You could choose a license they refuse to accept, and end up not being able to use any future releases. My employer will not use copy-left style licenses for example.

You also should keep in mind any other dependencies you have, and what licenses they have. It may influence what licenses you can use, or whether you can continue to use a certain dependency

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for your answer.

The license change won’t apply retroactively - I am not sure theres a legal way to retroactively change licenses and terms? I am recalling back to the Unity runtime fee, which they wanted to apply retroactively, but there was a lot of noise/discussion on whether it was legal to even do this.

OK, in that case it may not even make much sense to add a license. There will be no added code to this repo in the future, so there will nothing the new license would apply to.

Once you have main released version of the repo that contains the license you want to use going forward, any branches from that point should contain license by default? Since its just a file in the main branch.

Yes, you kind of answered this in question 1. Since it is not retroactively applied, it won't apply to the stale branches that only exist as snapshots of the code.

Since you are using it commercially, and want to change the license for future versions, you will absolutely want to discuss this with whatever entity is using it. You could choose a license they refuse to accept, and end up not being able to use any future releases. My employer will not use copy-left style licenses for example.

Good point. This is not included in any software that is distributed, it is only a smaller part of an internal codebase used for data analysis. Does that not change things? But to be on the safe side, it would probably make sense to make it as permissive as possible to avoid any issues here. But then again, if it is not applied retroactively then nothing of the code used will be subject to any license. But good thing to remember for the future.

[–] nix@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Also not a lawyer, but you can also grant exceptions to the license (if you're the sole owner of the code), so you can license code one way and let a certain org use it another way.

Which is essentially already what's happening. The default "license" of something is that you have full ownership and no rights are given to anyone else. You've essentially give your company an exception to use it for that project.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Either you misunderstand or the person you are responding to is. If you retroactively add a license to the current state of the code (for example by committing a new LICENSE file and adding the new license to the top of each file), or course that applies to the entire state of that code as of that commit. What is more difficult is that earlier commits won't have that license explicitly unless you rewrite git history to make that happen (which is possible but tedious).

You can always relicense code you own the rights to. You can even dual license it, or continue to use it commercially in terms contradicting the license you open sourced it as, as long as you have the permission of every contributor.

The idea that a license added would only apply to code added after the license change is very funny.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Either you misunderstand or the person

Yeah to be clear, I wasn’t suggesting you can’t change the license at all, or it requires code changes or whatever.

You are completely free to apply whatever license, and use that going forward without changing the code at all.

And like you have correctly pointed out, you could rewrite git history, or even just remove all prior versions of the code.

I am of course happy to be wrong or have misunderstood something- I am absolutely not an expert and would like to be corrected if I am wrong!

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

unless you rewrite git history to make that happen

Or just write an external document saying that all files in all previous revisions are available under whatever licence. There is nothing magical about a licence notice at the top of a file. It is just helpful documentation of the license. But you can document a licence anywhere as long as you are the owner of that code.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

The idea that a license added would only apply to code added after the license change is very funny.

I suppose it makes sense if it originally had a license, and you then change the license to be less permissive.

What is more difficult is that earlier commits won’t have that license explicitly unless you rewrite git history to make that happen (which is possible but tedious).

I will probably not do that, but I guess it factors into my second question: That I in that case should make sure to include it in all branches (which are not treated as branches in the common sense, but rather as forks within the repo - they will never be merged to the main branch).

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I am not sure theres a legal way to retroactively change licenses and terms?

I don't think this is really true. If you own the code you can licence it as many times and in as many ways as you want. You just say that you are licensing existing versions and it becomes true. Probably a good idea to write that down somewhere (maybe in the LICENSE file) to make a "paper trail" in case you ever need to document this license.

You generally can't retroactively change a license, such as revoking it. But licences may have revocation terms. But it doesn't really matter what existing licences are on a code, you can always add new licences if you own it.

A silly example. If I own some code I can say "Anyone standing on their left foot can use this code". That doesn't stop me from later saying "Anyone standing on their right foot can use this code". But licenses are still valid, and I haven't change the first one. But now people can choose which license they would like to use.