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A 63-hour-long marathon of GPS jamming attacks disrupted global satellite navigation systems for hundreds of aircraft flying through the Baltic region – and Russia is thought to be responsible

Russia is suspected of launching a record-breaking 63-hour-long attack on GPS signals in the Baltic region. The incident, which affected hundreds of passenger jets earlier this month, occurred amid rising tensions between Russia and the NATO military alliance more than two years since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

“We have seen an increase in GPS jamming since the start of Russia’s war against Ukraine, and allies have publicly warned that Russia has been behind GPS jamming affecting aviation and shipping,” a NATO official told New Scientist. “Russia has a track record of jamming GPS signals and has a range of capabilities for electronic warfare.”

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 133 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Russia is really stretching this out, aren't they. Maybe they need some proper ass kicking to fall back in line.

At some point the west has to react.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 79 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Never mind Russia, I'd be happy with anyone making a "special military operation" on Putin's whereabouts. NATO doesn't have to fight Russia. They only need the head of the snake.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

don't think that this will work. Russia is rotten to the core and there is always another head.

we are fighting a hydra not a snake.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Anyway, we should start at the top and work downwards. It's a waste of ammo to kill all the involuntary cannon fodder. If the top goes, Russia would have to reconstruct, however that might turn out.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Russia would have to reconstruct, however that might turn out.

Balkanization boogaloo?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, I'd take that over the status quo.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Likely not. Everyone who wanted to leave Russia did so in the 1990’s

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Like tip to tip? No thanks.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

A state can't fight like that though. Needs to be a non state actor.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Except Putin's behavior isn't sane even by oligarch standards. Another corrupt leader would just take Putin's place, but they might not be inclined to continue with Ukraine. They could just blame it all on Putin and quietly retreat the military. It's not the best outcome, but at least Ukraine would be safe.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But doing it suddenly will create a power vacuum, which usually gets filled by the most ruthless people

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't Russia have lines of succession?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago

“Oops! All Putin!”

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

In what world would Putin allow anything other that a yes-man be his official backup?

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's not just Putin, and it's not all of Russia. The Kremlin+oligarchs are the problem.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Humanity really needs to figure out how to handle corrupt people in power.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (6 children)

We have. It's just against the ToS on most forums.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We did, we must get murdered by shitty people in power when we say it too loud.

Short version: don't have these huge power differentials.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh we know how, it's just not pretty.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh we know how, it’s just not pretty.

Lol, okay, that's my fault. When I wrote that I was thinking in a non-violent sort of way, legislatively/investigatively. A system of governance that would prevent somebody from warping the system and becoming all powerful and above the system.

The problem with what your advocating is it doesn't solve the problem, it just punts the ball down the field, and then sooner or later the same scenario problem comes back again.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, you could say that with nearly any solution besides peace... which is hard to maintain too. So, pick your poison.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So, pick your poison.

a non-violent sort of way, legislatively/investigatively. A system of governance that would prevent somebody from warping the system and becoming all powerful and above the system.

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[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

While this is true, I think it's more likely than not that a successor doesn't share the same amount of Soviet fetishism. Putin is kinda out there and doing things that aren't great for Russian business. You only have to be slightly less mad than Putin to realize that.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

But not the same shitty, abd since they're not Putin, they can disown this whole shit show and shut it down without looking weak.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So let the other heads see what happens when you fuck around too much.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like many things political, you start doing outside political killings from another country, pretty soon you can find yourself dead as a political leader. It's playground tit-for-tat rules.

Plus, unless you are prepared for a "You break it, you buy it" situation, can and always will get something worse. See: the Middle East at this moment in time.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

So the actual people need to be the ones to do this.

It really would be better for future stability if the people of Moscow did it anyway.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

See: the Middle East at this moment in time.

Or pretty much any point in time in the last several decades.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

That's why none of them will do it.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

There is no way to convince me that the CIA, MI6, and/or Beijing couldn’t take him out if they wanted him gone, which makes me wonder why they wouldn’t, I guess World War III but it’s not like that’s not already a possibility

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There isn't a replacement in place for Putin that would be any different. Everyone that thinks and acts different is kept away from power in Russia. Pushed out of windows, deaths in prison or the aircraft falls out of the sky. There is a possibility that he is replaced by someone worse.

It's much better if he is removed from power by Russians. The next leader has to be different and havs the support of the people. Intelligence services taking him out won't achieve this. Your likely to get an extremists that tries to escalate the war in Ukraine.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That remains true as long as he doesn’t start a nuclear exchange. If he starts really leaning in that direction I would expect a change in calculus

[–] Chewget@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The CIA attempted to assassinate castro between 8 and 634 times

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Different world between then and now, any claim of an attempt after the fall of the USSR is as sus as an Alabama national championship prior to 2000. Also I meant as mostly coordinated effort

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Because then Russia will try to assasinate US leaders

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[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Yea they even got OBL murdered when they wanted. It seems that they just don't want Putin gone for now, profits or "escalation" as a reason.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah. These are all state actors. They don't want to break the taboo on assassinating world leaders when they do atrocities, because they may want to do atrocities later.

So millions of poor fuckers die in the mud.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

There are smart people in Russia who need better things to do. This bullshit is out of control.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

There needs to not be a 'Russia' after this. Split it up. Try to keep the regions peaceful and shit, but absolutely divide them politically, so one cannot say 'Russia' is a meaningful entity.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, we know how it went with Africa. Sure. You'd like to do that from the comfort of your home, right?

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[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh that sounds easy and like it surely would backfire spectacularly /s that’s how you get a nuclear war or similar.

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