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FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He is funding Israel's genocide, that is fascist. He is president of one of the most incarcerated nations in the world. Has he done anything to eliminate the prison industrial complex? He leads the most powerful army in the world.

Democrats do just enough to make it so that liberals don't feel icky about their day to day lives.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Biden should be criticised for not demanding Israel stop unnecessary civilian deaths.

It seems like by this logic every western nation leader who hasn’t directly intervened to stop Israel is a fascist.

Plenty of countries have trade relationships with Israel and are funding their war indirectly.

What I have seen though is that as pressure is applied to Biden on this issue he is more likely to ratchet up pressure on Bibi to rein it in. The same could not be said if Trump were in office.

Again though I ask you, who are you voting for if not Biden?

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes!!! They are all fascist countries! And there are a few that are taking steps to end it.

Biden is not "failing to stop unnecessary civilian deaths" - this is a Zionist framing that paints the genocide as a just war. It is a genocide and Biden is ARMING the military commiting genocide. Biden is actively involved.

Biden is not pressuring Bibi in any real way whatsoever.

Let me ask you how Biden and the Democratic party are supposed to be held accountable, how are they going to change if people keep voting for them? Because so far they have NOT changed. The strategy of continually voting in lackluster candidates has not gotten us anywhere.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know fascism has an actual definition right?

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the United States does not seem like a fascist country to you, you are probably very privileged and politically undereducated. We are funding a genocide for an ethnostate. We have a hugely inflated prison population for whom slavery is legal. No country even comes close to the amount of money we spend on the military, look it up it's not even close.

Sure, we have democratic elections, but so does Russia. When the "good guys" win the presidency, the United States is still doing all those things I mentioned.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lotta hyperbole and angry assumptions about who's privileged and politically uneducated in this conversation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

There are so many definitions, I don't know why you insist on one that apparently doesn't include slavery, genocide, and military worship.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to this logic, the US has been a fascist state since WW2 due to its creation of and unwavering support for Israel.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

... yes??? yess???!!

And when we had slavery?? (which we continue to have now in our prisons)

And we do torture,

and we assassinate black people when they organize,

we have a huge military worship culture,

and we have so many territories and military bases abroad and have funded so many horrible dictators

How are you not seeing it? Honestly?

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure. So what do you propose to do next?

The context of this thread is that you're specifically labelling Joe Biden a fascist. Why single him out if it's the whole system and everyone in it?

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly, why vote for him? Vote for a third party candidate and stop voting in fascists.