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[โ€“] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those are both already poison. ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Funny thing about a strong base & a strong acid, when you put them together you get a powerful reaction which can be somewhat explosive - so that's the implied fifth panel. But then they neutralise each other and you get a fairly inert salt.

The thing that makes them highly reactive - and thus toxic - is their affinity for ionic bonds. But once those bonds form, that same affinity makes the salt stable and safe. Ammonium chloride is used in cough medicine.

[โ€“] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure Ammonia and Clorox Bleach are both alkali, also they famously mix to produce chloride gases, which aren't salt and definitely aren't innert.

[โ€“] BreadOven@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are both alkali. Although I believe the process does make some chlorine gas, it almost all reacts and you get chloramine gas as an end result. Also very toxic, and what people die from who mix these.

[โ€“] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ty for clarifying the gases. Chem is my worst STEM subject, so I'm not surprised I got something wrong.

[โ€“] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

No problem. I usually take any chance I get to explain chemistry. They don't come around too often.

[โ€“] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're right actually, I thought it was chlorine.

Nevermind, they're turbofucked.

[โ€“] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Chlorine isn't an acid or base on its own. HCl is maybe what you're referring to?

On a side note, household ammonia is actually an equilibrium between water, ammonia, and ammonium hydroxide. Meaning it doesn't fully dissociate in water, which by definition does not make it a strong base.

[โ€“] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

Yup, you're right, I was wrong about what they were actually putting in their mouths. It is interesting to me that the most unstable molecules can come together to form some of the safest salts/compounds, but that's not what's happening here.