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VLC - App stores were a mistake (archive.is)

submitted 7 months ago by ozoned@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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VideoLAN @videolan App Stores were a mistake. Currently, we cannot update VLC on Windows Store, and we cannot update VLC on Android Play Store, without reducing security or dropping a lot of users... For now, iOS App Store still allows us to ship for iOS9, but until when?

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[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok yeah it's kind of funny but if you think about it for a second that ipad is perfectly functional. If apple doesn't want to support it because it doesn't make them money, then why can't the community? Why does apple get to decide what is e-trash and what isn't?

The laptop I bought second hand in 2014 is still very much functionnal, and in fact it still runs. I'll concede that it doesn't run well, as it was already unpowered back then, but it runs some flavors of Linux oriented towards low-power devices, because people made them to do specifically this. If I had bought a second had ipad instead, it would be in a landfill by now. It didn't even take any special actions on toshiba's part to make it behave like this, they just made a laptop that was up to the standards of every other laptop at the time. What I'm getting at is that this isn't a new idea, we know how to take care of our devices for longer already, were it not for the apples and googles telling us what we can't and can do on the device we own.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought MissTake's response was really good and covers pretty much everything

“Thanks to Apple”?

The original iPad was a 32 bit A8 single core CPU that topped out as 1Ghz and with 256MB Ram and used the ARMv7 instruction set.

How do you expect a modern day OS with requirements to deal with real world sensors, and user requirements that didn’t exist back then, to run against that?

The latest iPads have 2GB Ram, are 64 bit, run multiple cores and have embedded motion coprocessors and neural capabilities running a much later instruction set.

Let’s be reasonable here - that device is now about to be 14 years old.

And, if “the hardware works beautifully” how is it “pretty much a brick”?

iPads are not the same as laptops or desktops. Sure, you can still run some Linux distros on older 32 bit hardware, but everyone who does knows of the limitations of doing so and realize that they lack the horsepower of modern day computers and use them accordingly.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Disagree. They should be forced to open it up for the community to maintain it when they end support.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

My thoughts exactly. It would be unreasonable to expect full support 14 years after it came out, and it would be unreasonable to expect modern apps to work flawlessly. But it's not unreasonable to say that all the specs mentionned by the commenter can just be considered to all be 0 if the device cant run anything - not because it is physically incapable of it, but because we can't even try.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 7 months ago

From my understanding of the quoted text, that's what the person is suggesting. That at a certain point, things shouldn't any longer just work and users should be made to take responsibility.