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[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you’re not. You think you owe $10, but you actually owe $12. It’s not your fault, it’s just a misunderstanding of a complicated tax code, but you still owe it.

Yes, we are. There is no scenario where taxes are not being paid. We are, in fact, going out of our way to pay taxes. It is not effort-free.

We "think we owe $10" based on a good-faith effort to fill out the forms, run the tallies, and submit what total shows.

You can’t just not pay it.

And people are paying, by and large.

No one is trying to bust anyone. This is just informing them of the property line and asking them to please leave. You’re suggesting people should be allowed to continue trespassing because they thought it was public land. Doesn’t work that way.

To borrow the analogy once more, informing them the property line is acktchually a few yards away from what both the general public, the authorities, and the attourneys all believed it was, discovered through an exhaustive and expensive effort to ensure every single person ever in the jurisdiction isn't overstepping the property line, resulting from what was an effort to ensure habitual, egregious trespassers were dealt sirh

No one is going to be happy with this outcome, and those responsible will be earning much ire.

I'm not at all suggesting people should continue trespassing. I'm highlighting exactly what I said: It’s borderline entrapment and will only serve to rile people up.

And yes, that sign should be more clearly posted. That’s absolutely true. But it doesn’t change the law.

It does, however, greatly impact many lives and, as a downstream impact, the political climate.

If you didn’t pay all your taxes, you have to pay the rest of them, even if it was an accident. No one is talking about penalties or fees, just paying the original owed amount.

Yeah... and I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There is no scenario where taxes are not being paid.

The only way for the IRS to recover money is for people to have not paid the taxes they owe. Likely on accident, but still.

By definition, taxes were not paid.

To borrow the analogy once more, informing them the property line is acktchually a few yards away from what both the general public, the authorities, and the attourneys all believed it was, discovered through an exhaustive and expensive effort to ensure every single person ever in the jurisdiction isn’t overstepping the property line, resulting from what was an effort to ensure habitual, egregious trespassers were dealt sirh

And this is a bad thing how? Now we know where the property line is and we have more security/police to remind people to stay off it. Who would be angry at that? The property line didn't change, it just got clarified.

will only serve to rile people up.

I'm going to put this bluntly: fuck em. Pay your taxes. The only people mad at this are people who support tax evasion, which is a large amount of people.

You're mad about paying taxes? Fuck you, pay your taxes. It makes my life worse when your greed steals money from our government.