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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/1743099

.yaml, .toml, etc?

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[–] darganon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like xml, but it isn't the easiest to read.

I hate yaml with a burning passion. At least with JSON you can compress it all down.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you have a problem, and use XML to solve it, you now have two problems

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A compliant yaml parser will read json, as they're essentially siblings.. so just write your configs in json and they'll work, if you dislike yaml.

[–] darganon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the tip!

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm no fan of XML. It looks messy and the schema is difficult to write, imo. XML works best as a markup language.

YAML could have been okay if it were stricter with what they consider strings, and used tabs instead of spaces.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Using whitespace was a mistake. I know all the kids love it but it's just wrong. I've never had as much difficulty explaining json or xml to users as I have yaml.

[–] schaeferpp@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We seem to have something in common: there is a serialisation form, we strongly dislike. But what I cannot understand is: why the heck would anyone torture anyone else to read or even write XML? XML is the absolutely worst configuration language I can imagine. I mean: when is something an attribute, when a tag on its own? What is even a list? And don't forget to include a full HTTP URI for the namespace, otherwise the tag is not defined.

By the way: all valid JSON is valid yaml as well. So in theory, you can use yaml as JSON with comments.

[–] darganon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mainly work with windows, and powershell works great with xml.