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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they want to build extensions that do those things, I fully support them.

I don't need or want my engineering team building my browser doing things other than building my browser. I want them working on the browser. I need AI I didn't ask for in my browser like I need an additional hole in my head.

I want my browser to be a browser and if Firefox isn't focused on just building a great browser, I'm leaving.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Any where? Its a browser not a religion.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't really know any real alternative if you value privacy and the openness of the web?
There are 3 companies making (as in putting the real work into it) browsers, Apple Google and Mozilla. Apple is only serving its own interests, and Google has clearly indicated where they want the web to go (more ads, less blockers, more tracking).

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lol, well yes. It's chromium under the hood.

[–] tuckerm@saltylike.us 17 points 8 months ago

@Orygin@sh.itjust.works @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world Also, if you're looking to get away from AI in your browser, Opera is absolutely not the way to go. The company is run by techbros that will jump on any hype train to gain users. Good summary here: https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-opera-browser/

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

Bro really said opera

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

Another Chromium skin

In 2016, Opera, developed in Norway, became a subsidiary of an investment group led by a Chinese consortium.

The company released a gaming-oriented version of the browser, Opera GX, in 2019, and a blockchain-focused Opera Crypto Browser into public beta in January 2022. In April 2023, the company announced a major overhaul to the browser called Opera 100 and code-named "Opera One", adding a new user interface and several AI-related features.

Opera users also have access to Opera News, a news app based on an AI platform.

Uhhh

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of forks of Firefox, many of which will likely not follow Mozilla’s lead when it comes to adding non-essential functionality to the core product.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but you're still using firefox under the hood. Same story as the chrome reskins: you are beholden to what upstream does. You can go around limitations and do stuff differently, but pretty sure it's not the forks that will keep eg. the extension manifest V2 alive in chrome to be able to have a real ad blocker.

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Every fork has a reason it exists, which is to do something specific differently from the upstream. There's almost guaranteed going to be a fork whose whole shtick is going to be “no built-in AI”.