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i've been filtering hexbear's communities from my all feed with uBO^1 because of the tankie vibes, but outside their own communities hexbear people seem to behave themselves reasonably well. considering lemmygrad is defederated i can expect them being defederated as well just because of the politics, but they don't seem too brigade-y to the communities here.
to be fair i've been blocking all the politics and politic-adjacent communities left right and center so perhaps i'm just not seeing the bad parts of hexbear, but shitposting wise they seem alright.
the only real gripe i have with hexbear is that lemmy's handling of emoji in general suck and man do they like their emojis. but that's a software issue more than anything
We defederated lemmygrad? Why?
Ada took issue with their politics it seems.
Politics alone isn't the issue. That's why hexbear isn't defederated. The issue with lemmygrad was the brigading, trolling, and being ok with wishing death on the people of NATO (not just memes/quips about dismantling the organisation)
Edit - Clarified some wording
Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I would allow "wishing death on the people of NATO". And I grew up with ol' Jens as my homeland's prime minister! I've got American soldiers in my backyard and Russia declaring my dear Norway to be "hostile" twice!
It's like, I just cannot really imagine what "wishing death on the people of NATO" even means. Who exactly would wish for the extermination of the citizenry of exactly 31-to-be-32 nations because of their membership in one specific organization? Are people out here wishing death on the people of the European Union as well? "Down with the people of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact?" Or are the "people of NATO" supposed to be those who willingly chose to support this organization through personal involvement in it?
It's easier for me to imagine maybe that people from Hexbear were expressing loud contempt for the imperial core... But if the citizens of the richer part of the Walled World feel uncomfortable because of that, then even for an instance that "want[s its] community members to be guided by compassion and empathy for others.", I just could not bring myself to care if I were an instance admin. As a citizen of the imperial core, if people in the imperial periphery want to talk about how much they hate people like me, even if they go so far as to say "death to Norway", then let them. In fact I said "hell yeah!" when I saw the Mapuche graffiti reading "GUERRA A NORUEGA" when I learned about Statkraft's decades of violation of Indigenous rights in Chile.
As a gentile, Jews can tell me to drop dead; as a white person, BIPOC can tell me to drop dead; as a sedentary person, travelers can tell me to drop dead; as a sighted person, blind/visually impaired people can tell me to drop dead; as a hearing person, deaf/HOH people can tell me to drop dead; as someone who unfortunately still eats meat, vegans can talk serious trash about me for not kicking the habit already; and so forth. And contrariwise as an autistic trans person, I should be free to talk as much trash as I'd damned well please about neurotypicals and cis people. Part of reckoning with one's privilege should be understanding that those oppressed by systems that one personally benefits from shouldn't have to show you any respect. They should be allowed to get mad as hell and tell one to drop dead! Putting up with that is real respect. Putting up with that means that you understand the hierarchies at play in your life.
That is my opinion: That if we are not allowed to use even the harshest words towards our oppressors, that we will only be a community that preaches the aesthetics of empathy and compassion, rather than living it as fact. I have absolutely enjoyed my time as a Blåhaj Lemmy user, I wish for this instance to grow and flourish, and I wish for this to be my criticism of your administration.
Harsh words aren't the issue and they are not why lemmygrad was defederated.
Then what are you even talking about?! Who are the "people of NATO" and why is it bad to wish death on them?! My whole point is that it should be permissible to wish death on people in positions of power and privilege, and regardless of if "people of NATO" refers to "organizational staff/soldiers" or "citizenry of member states", that would be the case. Do you disagree with this premise and if so why?!
You have been a good admin, so please forgive me for being so forceful.
Edit: And what happened to the comment about "death to Nazis and transphobes"? I don't see it anymore. You didn't remove it, did you? That would reflect very poorly on your administration if you did.
I don't really understand this one, why is it bad to call for the dissolution of an organization?
I've clarified my post. I was referring to wishing death on the people of NATO, not simply calling for the dismantling of the organisation.
Glad to get clarification, I wasn't sure if you'd given an explanation anywhere.
How?? Please tell me your secrets. My kbin "blocked" tab now covers three pages and I barely feel like I'm making a dent.
i've also been blocking manually as i come across them. i guess what we consider politics-adjacent is different enough that it seems to work for me.
i'm also considering filtering out a few common news sites but i haven't done anything of that sort yet.
as for my secrets, i have these https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1633853 ready to go but those are pretty lemmy-only so they probably won't help you there
No no, this is good. Lemmy ones apply to me too, and the assorted "Lemmies" are where a lot of the activity happens anyway. Thanks!