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[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Russian oligarchs can't spend their money in a nuclear wasteland. Putin's gonna fall down some flights of stairs if he tries anything funny.

Also, the last time a Russian was told to deploy the nukes, he didn't - which was good, because the order was a fluke.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Technically it want an order but malfunctioned alert system. He made a good guess that it's just a glitch and neglected the protocol which saved millions and countries but he got a warning for not following the protocol... Just another day at military I suppose.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Context matters. If there are no escalations happening in world politics, why would there suddenly be an order to launch?

If the same glitch happened while Russian leaders are going hint hint nudge nudge towards their nuclear arsenal, would that operator do the same thing?

Maybe the worst thing about nukes isn't that the button will be pressed on purpose, but that some damn fool thing will happen on accident and things happen before anyone can take stock of the situation.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No idea what you're taking about tbh. As I said there was no order and it was during cold war iirc. Not sure what you mean by Russian leaders using glitch as an excuse. If it happened there would be no one left to blame.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean that right now, Putin is in a war where he's actively reminding the rest of the world that they have nukes to use. If an order comes down to launch now, that's different than an order that comes down when nothing else is happening.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Yes but I want taking about it? I was replying to someone who mentioned the cold war incident

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is why phrasing is so important... because I did not remember all that, but phrased myself so that you would do the web search...

...THE POWER~!

Thanks though ^; it's pretty wild to think that almost on a fluke, we'd be living in nuclear winter right now.

Like histories dumbest and most impactful "whoopsie doodle".

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He made a decision of the kind you generally have to make when working with systems which can cause mass destruction by design or by error. I'm pretty sure many other people have done similar things in USSR and in USA and in France etc

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also, the last time a Russian was told to deploy the nukes, he didn’t - which was good, because the order was a fluke.

WDYM by deploy?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Probably the wrong choice of words. "Launch" is probably the correct word.