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Europe will lose all credibility if Russia wins in Ukraine, warns French president Macron (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia did not turn out better, since there was no real regime change after the end of the USSR. Putin was in the KGB. I'm sure most people who are in power now were in the elite in the USSR as well.

Actually Putin became president about ten years after the USSR collapsed, so there may have been a window of opportunity

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeltsin was a highly placed party member as well before becoming president. You could say he was liberal, but so was Orbán during his first term.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good point. I'm not sure if the first president could've been not a highly placed party member, though, that'd be more like a revolution

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

That's my point exactly. No revolution ever happened, the same power structures that kept the USSR working the way it did keep Russia in the same path.