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my apologies for the long screenshot. i had purchased adguard's vpn service for five years since its primary adguard service is well know in the iapple ecosystem.

on android, though, their app appears to send data to a lot of third-parties. has it always been this compromised? am i a fool to go for their vpn services as well?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mullvad knows exactly who is connecting, when they are connecting and where they are located. If you have payment information on file they also know your name and your credit card.

They can claim to somehow be "log free" but you can't trust one who says they are going to not do something. Even if they aren't abusing your data someone could of compromised them. Its not a good idea to place trust where you don't have control.

[–] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mullvad certifiably doesn't log. Their VPN infrastructure even transitioned to RAM-only a few months back. They've been raided by the police and nothing was confiscated because there was nothing to confiscate. Obviously they have a list of registered accounts and payments, but without any connection to - well, connections.

I get what you mean though and mostly agree: There are only a few providers I trust enough to shift said trust from the ISP to them.

As mentioned in the comment you replied to: Yes, trusting a third party is a compromise. But you are also trusting a third party when renting a server for a private VPN endpoint, as well. A third party provider with probably a lot more logging going on than a trusted service such as Mullvad. While being way more exposed.

Since TOR isn't feasible for most users 24/7, trusted commercial VPNs are the next best thing when the alternative is your ISP logging everything you do.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. You don't control Mullvad VPN so you don't control how the servers work. There is nothing Mullvad can do to change a fundamental property of the internet. They are no worse or better than your ISP. You shouldn't use device provided by your ISP and using a VPN gives a company insight and sometimes control of your machine. You should use your own device on your own network. From there setup encrypted DNS and lock down your network.

[–] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

What? So your advice for improving privacy is to not use a VPN, because the provider may log stuff and instead keep accessing stuff directly through your ISP who will log everything you do and simply use DNS over HTTPS/TLS, which does pretty much nothing for your privacy since your ISP still sees the servers you connect to?

That's terrible advice.