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Talking to normies about privacy: (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by shimdidly@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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[+] shimdidly@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if total privacy means i can’t have a phone or talk to most people then does that really make me more free?

Yes, and it's totally based if you do this. Our gadgets don't really makes us more free. At least not with how they're currently used. Everyone is disconnected from nature, sunsets, each other, and more. When's the last time you saw a concert? Everyone is staring at their phones and not even enjoying the moment they're in. Many are depressed and drowning in meaninglessness. When we look at old pictures of beaches from the 90s (not even that old) everyone appears physically fit, bright, and happy. Did our gadgets really make us any more free, or happy?

but if the only solution is to go live in the woods, is it really worth it?

Yes.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it seems like you’re blaming all of societies problems on technology. surely there must be more to it than that, right? the lack of fitness for example may be due to increasing grocery costs, the rise of fast food, the cost of living crises, and/or many other economical/sociological factors.

i just really don’t understand your argument here. you’re conflating the concept of “privacy” (the original topic of the conversation) with “all of our gadgets” and the effects of those gadgets. i don’t see anything in your comment that’s related to privacy.

and do you honestly think you’ll find more meaning by living in the woods? if so, why haven’t you done it?

[–] shimdidly@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

it seems like you’re blaming all of societies problems on technology.

We are talking about technology, and privacy. And I'm answering your questions. I'm no one special, and I don't have all the answers. Just because you and I are talking about this specific topic doesn't mean that's all I care about. Respectfully, what a silly thing to say.

and do you honestly think you’ll find more meaning by living in the woods? if so, why haven’t you done it?

Again, I'm no one special. But I that's exactly what I'm doing. Because I wouldn't offer any advice that I myself wouldn't be willing to follow. We sold our property in the city and purchased acreage on the countryside, are raising animals, and planting a garden this year. It's great. Humanity needs more experiences like this that are in harmony with nature and natural living, and less in the dull, gray brutalist, dehumanizing cityscapes we've created.

you’re conflating the concept of “privacy” (the original topic of the conversation) with “all of our gadgets” and the effects of those gadgets.

Right. Because there's nothing inherently wrong with gadgets. But our modern gadgets are purpose-built to be addictive, monopolize our attention and time, and invade our privacy. I believe these are all interrelated.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Everyone is disconnected from nature,

I live in a city. Me being "disconnected" from nature has nothing to do with my phone. It's a personal choice to live as mosquito-free a life as I can. (Also I just genuinely enjoy living in a city.)

sunsets

What are you even on about? There's one every day.

each other

Literally the opposite of truth. Modern technology allows me to stay in contact with people I'd be unable to stay in touch with otherwise.

And more. When's the last time you saw a concert?

January.

Everyone is staring at their phones and not even enjoying the moment they're in.

Yeah, because my fucking commute would be so much more enjoyable if I spent it staring into the distance and/or at the other people on the train.

Many are depressed and drowning in meaninglessness.

And you think that's somehow a new development? I mean, I guess you don't have time to think about life if you spend every waking minute just trying to survive as a hunter-gatherer but I wouldn't call that better.

When we look at old pictures of beaches from the 90s (not even that old) everyone appears physically fit, bright, and happy. Did our gadgets really make us any more free, or happy?

Because as a general rule people don't take pictures of unhappy moments. Especially not when taking pictures is actually expensive, film wasn't cheap and neither was getting it developed.

but if the only solution is to go live in the woods, is it really worth it?

Yes.

Fuck no. I don't enjoy literally everything that's associated with living alone (and a small group with limited-at-best contact with the outside world counts as "alone" as far as I'm concerned, I enjoy meeting people) in the wilderness.

You seem to think that because you'd enjoy life as a hermit in the woods everyone would. No. No, we would not.