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[–] nonearther@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When Google forked from WebKit to create Blink, they had genuine reasons for it.

Apple was stalling any progress of web by stalling new features in WebKit. They wanted to push their native apps and get big cut from developers' money.

Google had to fork and progress web dev further.

And unfortunately for us, Google folks are greedy assholes who stop at nothing to own everything web even if they have to bend everything.

WEI is a perfect example.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I never expected to fall down a rabbit hole.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple was stalling any progress of web by stalling new features in WebKit. They wanted to push their native apps and get big cut from developers’ money.

I mean, whatever their reasons, for World Wide Web of hypertext pages the list of necessary features shouldn't be so long.

So a good thing.

Anyway, that battle is long lost, so I'm just slowly moving my "internet reading" needs into Gemini. Friends I can't move, though.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If most of what you want out of the web is browsing static web pages, halting development of standards is fine. But if you want to expose capabilities through the browser like location that are available on new platforms instead of relying on platform-specific apps, you're going to need new features.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want that. WWW is not intended for that.

If you want that, there's been Flash and Java applets at least allowing whatever you'd like.

That was the correct way to put cross-platform applications into webpages.

Don't tell me about security problems in those, these are present in any piece of software and fixed with new versions, just like with the browser itself.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t want that. WWW is not intended for that.

Okay, then links awaits you. I'd rather use something that enables powerful in-browser web applications while not relying on a host of proprietary bug ridden plugins.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, then links awaits you.

It's a client for the same broken thing.

while not relying on a host of proprietary bug ridden plugins

This is utter bullshit.

Obfuscated JS is not any less proprietary or bug-ridden than Java bytecode.