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Their issues are:
"Billet review" is downplaying by an extreme degree.
They reviewed a cooler prototype designed for one GPU using a different one and claimed the product was not worth a purchase for anybody, ever. Linus was aware of the issue, but said the cooler was bad "regardless of what the true results would've shown" and not worth "$500 of extra time reviewing it correctly".
Then, they took this internal prototype that the company lended for review and, after claiming to be ready to give it back two times, SOLD IT to a random third party during an event. An event where competitors from the original company were visiting.
The company already confirmed that was their best prototype and they were relying on it to iterate on the design.
So LTT accepted a lent prototype from a new company, absolutely trashed the product in a review they purposely published with wrong methodology, then stole the prototype and sold it to God knows who.
At the very least it appears incredibly reckless.
what they did to billet is goddamn evil
Evil - least sheltered redditor, just an ass
ruining a prototype product, talking shit about it, and then selling it is a lot worse than being “just an ass”
K hes hitler the evil twins
Damn, I thought we had a while before the 14 yr olds showed up on Lemmy.
Ad hominems, buddy projecting find an argument next time
Meanwhile you're out here calling people redditors
So?
Edit wait are you claiming redditor is an ad hominem? Do you think that migrating to lemmy from reddit for a month puts you so much higher above redditors that u perceive being called one as an attack directed against you??? LMFAOOOOOO
the dictionary definition of evil is “morally reprehensible”. you don’t need to overreact by going straight to a godwin
So what we call hitler then
Pink and crimson are both red. But vastly different shades of it
Deep, so both linus and Hitler are evil ?
The way they handled the billet situation can be argued to be
The Linus as a person/ltt as a company as a whole isn't
So if linus did an evil deed, how we calling hitlers deeds then
A darker shade of red
Side note, people like you are why I miss the karma system and gilding. I can really appreciate a good troll, and used to give gold back in the day. Just know that some people out there are entertained by your work
Tfw even u know how ridiculous it is to use the same adjective for linus and hitler so u have to resort to metaphors and ad hominems to avoid answering and hide your embarrassment, only ghosting me is left >.< farewell
Oh, don't worry, I won't ghost you. How's your day been?
Still at deflection stage alright ghosting's postponed for now
Sounds like a long day
Go back to reddit you weirdo
oh u stalk my profile yeah im the weirdo
I think that their point that it's an $800 product for a last-gen card, there really isn't anyone out there that should buy this, and therefore it's a bad product is valid. They could have handled the whole thing better and honestly should've just scrapped the video before release.
Auctioning off the prototype when the company asked for it back is pretty inexcusable. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't malicious, but they clearly have problems with internal communication of things like this are happening.
At any rate, it's going to be a spicy WAN show this week. Linus needs to actually watch the video and address this point-by-point. If he "reads the comments" or cherry picks some of GN's weaker arguments he's just going to end up throwing fuel on the fire.
It's pretty normal for water blocks to come out well after a GPUs release. Also it looks like it was a new product/company so it makes sense the design took longer than the competition.
Then they shouldn't have reviewed it if their decision was made before even holding the product in their hand.
They could have reviewed it from the point of view of an R&D curiosity with the potential future iterations and cost reductions as the new startup finds their feet. Because, you know, that's what it was. But they decided to shit all over it for dishonest reasons instead.
I dont think it was malicious, but it is incredibly negligent. It puts a huge stain on the company that’s expected to honor embargos for unreleased products.
@wordle I also have the same thoughts as you.
I feel that if LMG looked at this product and thought "hey this is really dogshit", the decent thing to do would have been to go back to billet and tell them we can't cover it at all (and cop the loss of few hours as part of running an ethical business)
What the fuck, that’s deplorable
I don’t understand why he won’t just own up to the wrong gpu thing and move on. It’s like getting pissy that the f150 exhaust sounds like shit on your ford ranger.
If LMG gave out a prototype for their latest screwdriver to be reviewed and it was onsold, I highly doubt it being called a "mistake" would have sufficed, heads would be rolling
Feel terrible for Billet and how they were treated here
Ltt is certainly not innocent here but this one I'll disagree with since it basically just happened to them with an early sample of the backpack.
Billet was treated very bad here and i'm not trying to defend anyone, but i didn't saw the video and only heard from them because of this shitshow
Seemed like fair criticism to me, honestly. I enjoy watching LTT, but if they want to be a reliable source of data with "The Lab", they can't continue acting purely as an entertainment company.
Yeah, it was very measured and specific. You could tell he took no pleasure in doing it, the disappointment felt very genuine. It was also a classy move to avoid monetization
I mean for sure he just got a ton of viewers, but it didn't feel like YouTuber beef or a takedown.
I think he hints at the real issue a few times when he calls them "the company". It's the issue why I haven't been into Linus for a while - he talks like a capitalist now. He's got plenty of technical opinions, but you can tell he's not keeping up to speed on the tech (he's always getting help from someone off screen) - instead, he's always talking about business.
He talks about making products, the challenges, plans to expand, the sometimes hard to watch reccounts of changing relationships with his friends turned staff.
Which is still content, and I am led to believe he genuinely has a commitment to making good products and standing by them. But I'm not into that. I don't find it interesting, and I find myself skeptical of his technical judgement and less able to identify with him
Bad data is not the issue when they're the ones generating it. Rushed reviews are the issue.