this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
1368 points (96.3% liked)
Murdered by Words
1533 readers
1 users here now
Responses that completely destroy the original argument in a way that leaves little to no room for reply - a targeted, well-placed response to another person, organization, or group of people.
The following things are not grounds for murder:
- Personal appearance ("You're fat", "You're ugly")
- Posts with little-to-no context
- Posts based on a grammar/spelling error
- Dick jokes, "Yo mama", "No, you" type responses and other low effort insults
- "Your values are bad" without any logcal or factual ways of showing that they are wrong ("I believe in capitalism" - "Well, then you must be evil" or "Fuck you you ignorant asshole")
Rules:
- Be civil and remember the human. No name calling or insults. Swearing in general is fine, but not to insult someone else.
- Discussion is encouraged but arguments are not. Don’t be aggressive and don’t argue for arguments sake.
- No bigotry of any kind.
- Censor the person info of anyone not in the public eye.
- If you break the rules you’ll get one warning before you’re banned.
- Enjoy the community in the light hearted way it’s intended.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Hope the theft was worth the charges.
For someone that needs to steal food it absolutely is... That's why they're doing it...
And all I'm saying is not everybody that steals food needs to steal food. There are actually kleptomaniacs all over the place and /r/shoplifting is good evidence.
And I just saw a clit piercing in r/bodymods so clearly everyone who has an earring has genital piercings
I'm not the one claiming that a certain type of piercing doesn't exist. I'm claiming that a certain type of theft is not always altruistic. Everybody else in here seems to disagree and think everybody that steals food is always doing it to survive.
And what everyone is trying to tell you is we can stand 1 person in 10 who steals doing it for fun because the other 9 are doing it to survive. We're ok with 1 person needing counseling if 9 others get to wake up tomorrow.
So just for fun I decided to investigate. It appears that yhe nearest food bank is about 45 minutes from where I live by car. Which I can't afford if I can't afford food. So it's really just over 2 hours both ways by public transit (we're gonna assume I can afford that). So we're talking 5 hours just to get a night's worth of food (I hope you like cold beans and stale bread). Now there does appear to be 2 options closer. 1 that requires I enroll online (with what computer/network idk, hope your local library is still recieving funding) and the other is a once a week church meal. So idk, to me that doesn't feel super livable.
So at this point it's clear you don't actually know what you're talking about since you're just listing grocery assistance programs even though I just outlined their shortcomings. I truly hope you never have a night on the streets
How much you want to bet this person votes for the party that wants to eliminate all those things they just "recommended"?
I mean- I get where you are coming from- but it is actually pretty easy to get on SNAP (foodstamps). They just outright give you a card to use only for food. Like 400usd (more if you have a kid). I personally don't get it but I have helped others get on it. I also couldn't eat 400 usd worth of food a month.
Is snap really that easy to apply for? I was looking into it a while ago and I thought you had to provide proof of income (or lack thereof) and shit. Maybe I need to change my viewpoint here
You do need to provide proof of income (or lack thereof). It's not hard to do. Also don't have more than 3k in your bank account. Which if these things are true then you are the exact people SNAP is for. Basically if you go to your local human resources office (or create an account online) you just fill out the application and provide the asked for documents.
The incidence of kleptomania is small, and the collective damage done by those with such a pathology is almost certainly a rounding error at most to these corporations. These stores likely throw away more than they have stolen from them, r/dumpsterdiving is good evidence.