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[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for actually answering this. This answered a lot of questions for me. I actually work in a nasty part of the SOMA district of SF and have seen stuff there that I will never forget. 3 ODs have happened outside of my work while I was there so far. I've opened the door to leave and had somebody unconscious just fall in. A 16 year old girl's corpse was defiled after she died from an OD down the alley. People screaming covered in feces and peeling off their own skin. Some of my smaller coworkers have been harassed and chased when trying to enter the building. I've talked to some of the addicts there of course, and many of them have told me they don't care if they die. Most of them are not bad people, just mentally ill and disabled. Some of them definitely get the free needles but they all use outside. There is a needle disposal box around the corner and I've actually seen people breaking it open to steal the needles multiple times...

It just seems like none of this stuff works and we are all bending over backwards to cater to them, and then they end up dying anyway. Many of them are severely mentally ill or damaged from the drugs and it's pretty obvious that they are never going to be anything near functional ever again. It's like letting a 4 year old kid in an adult body addicted to opiates just go out on to the street to fend for themselves. They are not going to make choices that are beneficial to them in the long run, they've literally lost that ability.

After years of putting up with this stuff, I think your average person in the city just gets to the point where they've had enough, and people end up voting to try something else.

[–] Augustiner@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds absolutely horrible, and I definitely understand that residents don’t wanna live or work in these environments.
I don’t think there is an easy fix for this problem tbh. Or at least not on a local level. From what I see SF is doing a lot of social stuff right, or at least better than the rest of the country. On the other hand you have crazy inequality pushing people into desperation and addiction. This somehow needs to be solved, but it might get worse before it gets better. Idk man, it’s tough.

Where I think people can make a difference is on a personal level. A little kindness goes a long way, and those people are yearning for empathy. You said they are like 4 year olds, and I think they are probably just as vulnerable. Addicts don’t have the luxury of thinking about consequences, they just survive until the next fix. So the right thing to do is be as kind and understanding as possible, even though they might make it difficult.

If you don’t have it already, might I suggest you get some Narcan for your workplace? Sounds like you could literally save a life with it someday.

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're right, definitely couldn't hurt to have some Narcan around. I've called 911 when I see people that look like they're in danger, and the emergency services have come pretty quick each time. Many of them tend to use in tents, or place covers over themselves though. This makes it pretty difficult to tell if they're ok. Its very common to see people completely passed out but not dead. You can usually tell if they're actually danger by their skintone. Purple/blueish = bad.

Yeah I wish more cities in this country could devote the same amount of resources that SF devotes to these issues. Many of the addicted people I've talked to are actually from out of state, particularly red states. It shouldn't be up to certain cities to take most of the burden of this national problem, but it seems like that's what is happening. Income inequality is definitely out of control and I agree it seems to be a huge factor in pushing people into these situationss. Multi billionaires just should not exist when we have shit like this happening to to our people.

[–] Augustiner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that thing about red states sending their homeless to you guys is absolutely fucked. Makes policies that would actually help seem like they don’t, because more desolate people keep showing up, even though you guys are doing your best.

Also agree about the billionaires obviously, and I think the whole silicon valley tech culture also doesn’t help. FAANG employees with their big salaries can just afford way higher rents and costs of living than the average american, driving up the prices. But I’m sure as a resident you know all of those issues better than I do.

I hope it gets better for you guys, it’s an incredibly sad situation, especially in such a beautiful city like SF.