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You can take my place then.
Right. Macron’s not the one putting his head in front of the bullets
I see the two of you don't understand how a military works then. You don't join a military, and then bitch and complain if you are sent to fight, it's literally what you signed up for. If in this specific situation you are not French, you should also probably just keep your mouth shut
Because France is part of NATO and the EU, getting to war with Russia doesn't only means sending professional troops, but most likely total war where even civilians would be drafted
Look at yourself, you are talking like an human without soul. People are not robots or machines they join the military because perhaps they believe in justice and want to defend their own people from villains. There's no justice in fighting a war for business, there's no justice in fighting wars for corrupted politicians at the expenses of innocent people.
We are all humans and everyone should be allowed and encouraged to talk not to keep his mouth shout.
So like Putin?
Politicians and rulers are bad actors and professional liars who use everything as a leverage to get more wealth and power. Stalin fought the nazi in WWII, was he a good human being? fuck no he was a dictator himself tripping on power.
Politician who these days call for freedom on one hand while supporting a genocide in the other are scum, it's not that hard to see.
Wait... are you actually trying to push Putin's "Ukrainians are Nazis" narrative?
no? read the comments more carefully, if you need take a break walk around take a nap or eat something, there's no hurry.
You brought up Stalin and the Nazis. Who is Stalin and who are the Nazis in this situation?
I think they just pulled an easy example out of their ass, the argument doesn’t actually relate to what they’re trying to say.
Just “here’s a thing that will make you look dumb if you argue against” in a statement that otherwise doesn’t relate to what’s being said.
I see you don't understand that many European citizens are conscripts.
Not French citizens.
Finland, Switzerland, Austria, and Greece. These are the European countries with conscription. On paper, Norway and Sweden have conscription, but in all actuality there's basically no way you get conscripted involuntarily.
And Switzerland doesn't really count, they don't belong to the defense pacts
They said European, so I assumed they meant anyone in the whole of Europe, other than Ukraine & Russia/Belarus. Although I guess I forgot Latvia and Estonia. I also didn't say Turkey but they have conscription too.
Yeah it was pretty late yesterday and I misread that. That's why I deleted the comment.
Yes.
I see you were too lazy to look out up yourself. The only European armies with conscripts are Finnland, Switzerland, Austria, Greece, Turkey and of course Ukraine. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AConscription_map_of_the_world.svg
I see you, and pretty much everyone else, missed the point entieely
In that case your point either doesn't make sense or was badly explained. Both are entirely your fault.
and you don't understand the difference between a career soldier and a conscript. Let me enlighten you:
As a conscript you will be drafted only in a defense situation, an actual war in your own country. Simply spoken when the Russians are at your doorstep.
A career soldier can send to missions either an official NATO one or one approved by your country's commanding officer of your army.
I'm sure all those drafted/conscripts who went to Vietnam totally felt like they were defending their country from imminent attack!
you know that this is Europe here, right? But I see you don't even care, do you?
You're the one who talked about NATO, bud.
have another downvote.
Booohooo sniff sniff oh noes. Keep your head in the sand, ultimately it will be your demise I guess, I'm too old to get conscripted at this point. But I do remember the past.
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These are not the guys they’ll send out in a war. Unlike Russia, Western nations don’t need cannon fodder.
You are right, I forgot, the west would never do that!
Thinking the wealthy class won't send you to war has got to but one of the smoothest brain takes I've heard all year.
let me introduce you to the French public ...
Politicians and rulers never do, they are playing chess with people