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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure it’s a binary choice “in the end” but I have never been discussing “in the end”. I and OP are looking at the primaries. Now.

The primaries are an example of voters getting the opportunity to untie as many people from the less populous track as possible. Then, down the line, they get the choice to flip the switch or not.

Limiting your mindset to in the end statements is doomerism. I don’t disagree with any of your statements but you’re just looking at things from a perspective I don’t find altogether useful.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And what happens if, as a direct result of the way this campaign was conducted during the primaries, Biden ends up losing? (say, because the GOP somehow latch onto this Genocide Joe thing and turn into a Swiftboat that drags his whole campaign down just enough for Trump to squeak a win).

In that hypothetical scenario would you feel that the right choices were made?

See, no matter which way you come at this, in the end you're still stuck in the trolley problem.

The point is, if you're not considering these actions now in the context of what impact they might potentially have when you get to that in the end point, then you're driving at night without the lights on.

That's not me saying "Don't do it." That's me saying "Think very carefully about how you do it."

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago

as soon as the GOP starts caring about genocide in its messaging hell has frozen over and we might be saved lmao.

so yeah i think the right choices would have been made but i hope you recognize how absurd that hypothetical is.