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[–] garibaldi_biscuit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is a real pain in the ass if you drive manual:

Auto cars relax pressure on brake pedal to inch forward;

Manual cars take foot off brake, drop clutch, engage gear, engage clutch, move forward, drop clutch and engage brake again, gear to neutral, foot off clutch.

I'm sure all this inching forward happened a lot less when most cars were manual (Europe).

[–] PreachHard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk if it's ok to do but I've always just: keep it in first and clutch + brake -> bite on the clutch and swap to accelerator a smidge to move forward in traffic. Doesn't bother me much tbh but I've never driven an automatic so idk if I'm missing out.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm also a MT driver. I've driven my fair share of AT's though. With an AT, it's always pushing forward, so the brake is actually working against the idle force of the engine, so simply releasing the brake causes forward movement.

I too sit at most lights while standing on the clutch and brake while in first. It's the MT "ready to go" stance to me. For very long lights, I'll kick it into neutral and take my foot off the clutch, but for the most part, in active traffic, I'll just stand on it, because the light usually isn't long enough for me to reposition that much...

It's far easier to do as you say, as a veteran of MT driving, newbies will struggle, as they do. To be fair, I'd do the same as you, but I'm still very pragmatic about when I do it.

[–] PreachHard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's definitely a different kettle of fish when you're on a hill in traffic and swapping to the handbrake constantly, I think that's where newbies really struggle.

I've only been driving since 2012 so I wouldn't call myself a veteran since I know a few delivery drivers and the difference in experience is unreal lol

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably around when I got behind the wheel of my first standard, and I've driven a MT car as my main, daily driver, ever since. And I drive most days for at least 30 minutes a day any day I drive.

You're probably better than you give yourself credit for. By no means am I a perfect MT driver, but I can definitely drive manual very adequately, at least as well as I can drive an AT vehicle, which is what I learned on in the mid 2000's. I had the benefit of 5+ years of driving before I started with a MT vehicle, then drove nothing but manual for over 10 years.

15 years of driving + 10 of that being on a manual, means I'm very much not new at it.

[–] rhythmicotter@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

As a manual car enjoyer, my brain does all these tasks automatically without the need for conscious attention.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I believe you have the terms for drop clutch and engage clutch backwards.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I feel this pain. I'm a MT driver, it's part of the reason I'm very pragmatic about when I creep forward.... If I'm going to move forward just a little bit, I'm going to need a pretty good reason to do so; thus I try to be very observant to what's going on around me, specifically regarding if the gap in front of my is negatively affecting the movement of vehicles in my immediate area, like blocking laneways or slip lanes, etc. If I'm not creating a problem with where I am, I don't bother moving.