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Is it gonna reach anywhere or die out like kbin and the way it is going i would say mbin ? They are also trying to dip toe in the microblogging platform as well and trying to use lemmy clients and that confuses me as they are promising some features lemmy doesn't have so how would that and the microblogging part work out on lemmy clients . Also srry if i am at the wrong /c/ and just point me in the right way .

EDIT: After some researches i don't think i wanna support sublink as the devs didn't open any issues or propose any contributions to lemmy which could've solved the whole mod tools issue for everyone but they straight up went to forking for who knows why and that is not a good look.

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[–] classic@fedia.io 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately this is likely true. Witness how quickly the fediverse has become "Lemmy" for a lot of users. Nothing against any Lemmy instances. I just hate how things coalescence, become stale and then invariably becomes compromised by the centralization

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 months ago

It hasn't though. The microblog part of the fediverse is far larger than the lemmy side of things. The fact that it seems like lemmy has become the fediverse is a problem with federation and availability between these two distinct "communities", but it doesn't represent coalescence of the fediverse.

Quite the opposite infact. Before lemmy came around, the fediverse pretty much was only the microblogging community. And now it's more diverse, thanks to lemmy and the other threadiverse apps

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 9 months ago

I think the structure of these apps in terms of the social interactions they encourage has a ton to do with the quality of the experience.

It's fairly clear to me that the quality of the conversation on Mastodon is simply better. I think it's because the not-quite-4chan-but-almost level of anonymity and randomness to any given interaction on Lemmy makes it easy and consequence-free to be a dick. Enabling mods to deal with it once the dickishness reaches a certain threshold doesn't really seem to do anything to solve the problem, partly because there's a huge range of dickish behavior that doesn't quite rise to the level where it needs mod attention, but still degrades the conversation and dilutes anything good anyone's trying to add.

I don't really have much experience outside the Lemmy and Mastodon communities, but I think app authors spending time on particular UX features would probably be better spending their time on studying in depth the types of interactions their apps are enabling and encouraging, and trying to keep an eye on that as they're designing the system. What those answers are I don't really know, but it seems important.