Oh I must have missed the press release where he announced much higher tariffs for all cars, including ICE ones, manufactured on the other side of the Pacific.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Well. Yes, probably.

The environmental costs for shipping on a large container ship are, per unit, pretty low. China's already got the process for making cheap EVs down cold; we are still building our industry up, and it's slooooooooow. It's also more environmentally expensive to be duplicating processes rather than making scaling an existing process.

OTOH, the ability to wage war effectively is a compelling national security interest.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention that China is pretty big into the "prepare for war" game too.

[–] newnton@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Not sure why you were downvoted, however you feel about it the fact that China is currently undergoing one of the largest peacetime military buildups in history is undeniable

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Did you read the article?

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes actually, if you understood economies of scale there's a lot of reasons why planting your own garden in your backyard is worse than having industrial farms. Similarly, one country being able to control all the pollution would be far better than spreading it out and having little to no locust of control.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23132579/eat-local-csa-farmers-markets-locavore-slow-food

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinero/2023/01/27/eat-local-if-you-want-but-not-for-climate-reasons/?sh=1bf904c65215

For some articles about farming. Now obviously, there are situations where you can make local manufacturing better, but that comes at a high cost.

Either way, the point is, your initial assumption is wrong and I hope you learned something.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We aren't talking about small scale manufacturing vs large scale. It's large scale either way. Your analogy doesn't work.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Sadly for the US is it small scale manufacturing. Which is kind of the problem. There's been so much reduction in US manufacturing capability that they are essentially small scale. Other people have already pointed that out. What I will extend though is technically this is what the US is concerned about. The whole point that the US government is trying to make is that it's a national security issue that the US only produces at such small scale. So not only is what the US saying is that they want to destroy the environment and spend billions to start to maybe create large scale manufacturing again. Is it worth it? I dunno, but that's what's being proposed. Kill the environment, stick with ICE vehicles so USA can still compete in large scale manufacturing. Thus, Biden is a hypocrite.