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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to a man, overwhelmingly negative towards the old Soviet-supported societies

Then you're talking to a rarefied group of people. Possibly just the circle you run in.

I'm friends with a couple of engineers and other techies out of Poland and Belarus. They were educated out there and started their careers in the mid-90s, when the economy went into freefall. They did not consider what became of those countries an improvement, and that's before guys like Duda and Lukashenko took office.

Admittedly, I also know a Russian guy who is absolutely ride-or-die for Putin. Loves him. Thinks he saved Russia from collapse. But he's also a big Trump guy who thinks Joe Biden is a communist, so...

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This doesn't seem to square with the Orban, Duda, and Iohannis regimes, as they are all fiercely anti-democratic.

Hell, it doesn't square with the current Italian government or with the rising tide of German fascists.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, so you're just ignoring the evidence. Wish I could say I was surprised. We're done here.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I'm presenting ample countervailing evidence.