I think y'all are expecting too much from 2-3 poorly funded developers who are being overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands of people who grew used to have a "free" product developed by a giant corporation who employs thousands of people and has revenue in the hundreds of millions.

I also think that this constant chasing for the next Messiah is counterproductive. I wish the best of luck for the Sublinks developers, but I also wish they could find a way to work to grow the ecosystem as a whole instead of competing for such a small slice of the Internet.

To put it all together: If the largest issue with Lemmy is tooling for moderation and proper instance management, I'd be more than willing to refocus my work on Fediverser into it. But I have to say that I can not put any more effort into it without getting proper compensation for anything. As much as I'm hopeful to see the Fediverse grow and for the downfall of Big Tech, I know that we will need more (a lot more) than just a handful of people working on this as side-job while thousands of other just keep watching and repeating "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I also think that this constant chasing for the next Messiah is counterproductive.

MariaDB is a successful MySQL fork. LibreOffice is a successful OpenOffice fork. Even within the Fediverse, Mbin emerged as an actively developed fork from Kbin.

I wish the best of luck for the Sublinks developers, but I also wish they could find a way to work to grow the ecosystem as a whole instead of competing for such a small slice of the Internet.

The choice of Rust limited the ability for people to contribute. If I had gotten a dollar every time I read "I would like to contribute to Lemmy, but I don't have time to learn Rust", I would get a beer to everyone in this thread.

we will need more (a lot more) than just a handful of people working on this

Definitely. Sublinks with Java, Mbin with PHP and Piefed with Python already make it easier for people to contribute to the whole ecosystem.

Fediverser

As a side-note, how is it going on that side? It's been a while since the last time I checked.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Regarding status of fediverser: https://communick.news/comment/1760608

Still waiting for an update from NLNet

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

Fingers crossed!

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 4 points 8 months ago

Good luck!

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

God I wish you get that grant. Your Fediverser project is super interesting and promising, and I think could be a great boon.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for your kind words, and if you don't mind me taking this opportunity to remind everyone that you can support me via github and (even better) by joining Communick. Getting the grant would be nice, but being able to get continued support from the people that are really part of the Fediverse would be the perfect way for me to contribute and give back as well.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The choice of Rust limited the ability for people to contribute.

That's unfortunate. I think rust is particularly tailored to big projects with many contributors that need the performance boosts of a "low level" language. This goes especially for web apps, since they're likely to grow in size directly correlated to number of users and use time.

I get that the compiler is viewed as "training wheels" by the C and C++ coders, but it's nearly impossible to ensure memory safety on a large project without something or someone checking and enforcing it, since no one can be reasonably expected to parse thousands of lines of code and keep the data flow in mind at all times while considering edge cases and also trying to add on to it while other also grow it.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

The choice of Rust limited the ability for people to contribute. If I had gotten a dollar every time I read “I would like to contribute to Lemmy, but I don’t have time to learn Rust”, I would get a beer to everyone in this thread.

Rust is really not as hard to learn as some people claim. If they dont have time for this, how will they have time to contribute to Lemmy? Besides lemmy-ui is written in Typescript and could also use a lot more contributions.