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[–] June@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This fight about whether owning an android device or an Apple device having any morality associated with it at all is stupid.

Change my mind

I also think it’s interesting how many people are trying to de-google their lives but still simp for android. One reason I like Apple is because they jealously guard my data and don’t sell it.

[–] Kleysley@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They guard your data? Quote from Apples Privacy Policy about the Apple-ID:

[...]we process the following categories of personal data as necessary for purposes of our legitimate interests or those of a third party, including information about:

 Your Apple ID account, including information you use to sign in, as well as all the contact, payment, and security details, such as trusted phone numbers or security questions, that you use across Apple services Your devices, including your device’s name, serial number, and other hardware identifiers Your use of, and subscriptions to, various Apple services, such as iCloud, iTunes Store, App Store, Apple Music, and Apple One Payment details, including account numbers and expiration dates, billing and shipping addresses, and gift card redemption information These legitimate interests include:

  • Providing you and others with better service and support
  • Using your data to send you offers via email and push notifications that may be of interest to you
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fight is actually about the non-repairability of apple products, mostly laptops in Louis Rossmans's case, and not related to android.

[–] CleoTheWizard@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think repairability is a discussion. But we can also talk about how android makers cut updates off sooner which dooms the hardware to be trashed quicker. Or the very real human cost of google killing projects related to android and selling data. Also, a lot of the Apple stuff has to do with cost to repair, not repairability. At the end of the day, Apple can and does repair and resell their stuff. They just charge more to do so. But a lot of their users pay up for it. Would be interesting to see the stats on where broken devices end up for each

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, but this is a Louis Rossman quote. if you follow his channel he delves into what othe companies do also, but Apple is going above an beyond to make it so you can't get your product repaired. Even a tiny switch to know if lid is open or closed can't be changed because it will stop the device from booting, or if it is just a tiny ribbon cable apple will tell you it is not repairable and have to buy a new device. He is a right to repair advocate, not a bash apple ignore android manufacturers. Anyway there is GrapheneOS for "Android" phones. You can kiss google goodbye and get 5 years OS updates with Graphene

[–] JakeHimself@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simping is not the same as lacking a reasonable alternative

[–] Xelnoc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

This. I'm trying to switch to a pixel 3a running ubuntu touch, but there are still apps i need that i do not have a decent alternative for, so I still need both phones

Everything except inheriting and modding phones is unethical