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[–] newproph@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

google pixel 5 bought used, unlock the bootloader and flash it with grapheneOS. download Firefox with AdBlock and use fdroid and aurora store (found on fdroid) for apps.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Does it run all the android apps? Like, the one off apps for like my fridge, security cameras etc..?

[–] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No offense, but wtf does someone need an app for their fridge?

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's obviously to know what your groceries are doing, while you aren't looking.

[–] unsignedint@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like Night at the Museum but for a refrigerator. There’s a movie in there somewhere.

[–] Radioactrev@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sausage party was that movie. And yes, it was as bad as it sounds.

[–] unsignedint@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol, should’ve guessed…

[–] Resistentialism@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the only reason I can see for having a smart fridge is , if you're at the shops or at work, and you need to check if you need anything, you can just use that.

But, like, I can't see any other purpose. And even that one is instantly voided by using that magical little thing, and making yourself a list.

[–] Blimp7990@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

to ask alexa to buy more milk, duh

its like you dont even 2023

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just using it as an example because I just figured it out on my fridge (it's useless). I was just trying to figure out if I would be going backwards 10 years if I switched, that was just the first thing that came to mind as an example.

[–] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you do you. I just don't understand the engineers' motivation for creating an IoT fridge.

From the creators of the IoT fridge comes the first IoT toilet, complete with a bowl camera and mic that stares up your ass and notifies your family when the bathroom is in use and whose taking a crap. You can even review your past shits in 4k! 😛

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could maybe see some uses for a fridge on wifi. The only useful things it does is notify me if the temp rises beyond a point or if the door is left open for a really long time. As far as the temp rising without the door open the only cause is either the fridge failed ( It better fucking not) or the power went out. If the power goes out, so does my router so....

[–] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is actually somewhat useful. I don't know if that use-case is worth it to me, personally, to have a potentially insecure device on my home network, but I suppose you could give it its own network and write decent firewall rules to protect your other gear.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Never really thought about that. Hmm. I mean, it's GE, a somewhat reputable company, but apparently they were just bought out by a company in China. But it goes through my network, communicates with a cloud service, who communicates with the app on my phone. It would seem possible that whoever runs that cloud service has the ability to do whatever they want in my network through my fridge.

I run a raspberry pi for some automation in my house and use tailscale as a VPN so I can access it as a server when I'm not home. As long as I can trust tailscale, it is encrypted straight from the raspberry pi to my phone. There is no middle man. But having that cloud service for the fridge app is something I need to research.

[–] Blimp7990@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i mean, they will run. the question is if the app developers hate you.

and since for the most part app developers care about having you as a user so they can sell your personality to advertisers, what i actually mean by "if the app developers hate you" is "if the app is a bank".

Many banking apps will work on secure roms like calyx/graphene. Techlore set up a submittal system here you can check: https://plexus.techlore.tech/

As a concrete example, it indicates if the app works without google spyware at all vs if it works with the microg spyware simulation service, and indicates my former bank chase has support for migrog but not totally-google-free operation.

However, sadly (and I assume because the head dev of graphene has clear mental disorders and took a massive dump all over techlore for months at a time a couple summers back), somehow the play services question doesnt get answered on the techlore site. For that, you have to go to a different site: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

[–] ruination@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

You can get yourself sandboxed Google Play Services and everything should work fine. Personally, I have a separate profile for apps that need it.

[–] newproph@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

sorry ik it's months later. yes, things work for the most part. anything that doesn't I just enable exploit protection compatibility mode for and it works no problem then. you can even just straight up install Google play as a normal app without admin privileges.