It's also important to figure in the mass exodus of Russians fleeing conscription. Losing so many young Russians is going to make for rough times in the future.

"Though there are no official figures from Russia on how many citizens left, research by Prague Process, an organization focused on migration research and process, estimated that 700,000 to 1.2 million Russians left in the first year of the conflict.

In a recent report on the impact of this exodus on Russia’s workforce, Russian researcher and economist Vladislav Inozemtsev arrived at a similar figure, saying at least 1.3 million Russians have left."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you're a skilled worker, or have the potential to be one or just have the cash to leave. What's your choice?

Die in a useless war
Live happily in the west

So what's your choice?

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not even the West. Anecdotally there are tons of Russians hanging out in south east asia. Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand.

I've seen them pretty much everywhere we've been on vacation the last 2 years. Noticeably more than years before the war.

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

My US employer acquired a Russian one from Leningrad (HOI4 brain rot. i forget the modern name) not long after the war started. The employees were told they could not stay there to stay employed.

Most went to Portugal. Others went to Finland, Turkey, Georgia, and Bosnia.

A couple didn't leave...and didn't get laid off until last Christmas.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

Outside of those who left, there's a far larger mass of those who got used to avoid anything government-connected, including me. The capital of trust in what gvmnt does is nearly erased. Even pro-war crowd is sceptical about the whole thing at this point. I hope it wouldn't last another year walking with these limp legs.