20
Family of Utah man shot dead by FBI after threats to Biden say he was ‘frustrated’
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
20 points (100.0% liked)
News
4 readers
1 users here now
Breaking news and current events worldwide.
founded 1 year ago
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
@sparseMatrix
Choosing whom to trust (& listen to) is a moral choice, much more so than a political or philosophical choice.
Fam saying “he would never” are lying or naïve. He pointed a gun @ FBI agents. He would never?! Oh yes he fucking would, because he fucking did.
Rule # 1: Never point a weapon @ anything you don’t intend to destroy.
Repeated regularly by 2A folks.
He chose amoral violence, tragically. A greater tragedy will be if his fam&friends consider him a martyr.
I support the action taken by the FBI here, and I certainly support their use of deadly force on someone who pointed a gun at them. But having lived through the past several years, I'd really like to see a bodycam video which shows this.
Not interested in seeing the man get shot, just want to see a video of him pointing a gun at them. I also acknowledge that I think the FBI seems to have a better record of not lying about their use of force than random police do.
But, I'm still going with (believably) alleged to have pointed a gun at them for now.
Indeed, it's quite possible that both the guy and the police that shot him were in the wrong. We should never assume that because one group is bad the other group opposing them is good.
@sparseMatrix @FaceDeer @be_excellent_to_each_other
Also fair.
#ACAB …even if sometimes they do the right thing.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
@kelvin0mql @sparseMatrix @FaceDeer @be_excellent_to_each_other
#ACAB #FTP
Just because one or two cops do the right thing in no way justifies the existence of a standing police force.
https://controlc.com/0066fe07
@LevZadov
@kelvin0mql @be_excellent_to_each_other @FaceDeer
Not even going there right now. It is an adjacent issue.
@kelvin0mql @sparseMatrix @FaceDeer @be_excellent_to_each_other
It's always nice, though, when one of them turns whistleblower.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61272273-the-riders-come-out-at-night