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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

With appropriate legislation and social norms, I’d agree with you.

So I don’t agree with you.

We really need responsible gun owners to form a bloc, and shun the gun nuts and work with the left for gun legislation.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Answer this: how do you work on legislation to ensure responsible gun ownership with someone who detests any form of civilian gun ownership and absolutely refuses to learn the intricacies? How do you collaborate with someone who thinks themselves to be above understanding what they're working on? Sensible things HAVE been proposed by people with a deep understanding of guns, but they get spit on because they're something other than another ban on an inconsequential feature or function or type of something.

Edit to add: I cannot count the number of times I've given someone a chance and nearly every time the answer to "are you open to the possibility of your side being wrong about anything at all" is along the lines of me being the one who needs to be schooled by someone with zero firearms experience about why banning some specific things will solve mass shootings. On the other hand, I've taken many anti gun people shooting, and taught them some basics, and that changed a lot about how they viewed what they'd previously been told. Internet scholars will say this invalidates their ability to be objective and so their opinion no longer counts.

The evidence, that is total intolerance to the actual ideas and proposals by gun owners, and pushing for more of the same that didn't work the first few times, shows that legislators actual objectives are total disarmament, not the safety and lives of good people.