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[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Counter-counter-point : democracy, as a system of government, is pointless because whether you vote, you don't vote, you protest vote, you vote tactically or you just set your ballot paper on fire it's not going to make a difference -- you still get shafted by corrupt fuckers.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (11 children)

"Voting is pointless because they're all corrupt fuckers" sure, tell that to the gay people who now have rights because of Democrats, or the trans people who do not have rights because of Republicans. Dumbass

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Should I also tell that to all the people who voted Democrat and lost their right to abortion because every Democrat failed to pass a Federal abortion law in forty years because it didn't serve their own interests to do so?

Should I also tell that to all the people who voted Democrat and might lose their right to same-sex marriage because every Democrat as so far failed to pass a federal same-sex marriage law because it didn't serve their own interests to do so?

Do you want me to carry on about how corrupt the Democrats are? About how -- when it comes down to it -- they failed the people just as badly as the Republicans have?

Besides, I live in the UK and frankly don't give a shit about the clusterfuck that the American clownshow of politics is. We have our own problems.

I agree with you in boiling it down to: Democrats have failed the people because they haven't done enough good things, while Republicans have failed the people by actively doing terrible things.

So my conclusion is that yes, both parties have done terrible things, and I agree that Democrats haven't gone far enough on most issues I care about, but the GOP is actively going against the things I care about.

It's an easy decision at the ballot box, and it is an easy decision for me to do more than simply vote. Voting is the lowest bar for participation in a democracy.

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