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[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would one scale back government and focus on climate change and expanding immigration? And state's rights to do what exactly?

[–] ChatGPT@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d move the US to work more like the EU. Conservatives could move to conservative areas and liberals could move to liberal areas with more power to pass things they want to see in their area. Some states would be able to address climate change and handle immigration in any way they want. Others could focus on safety, firearms, low taxes and personal freedoms. Each state would be more responsible for balancing its own budget and planning for emergencies. Without FEMA etc if a hurricane strike Florida they best have had their emergency fund ready and or get help from trading partners otherwise your out of luck. It’s like a modern HOA living in one gets you better roads, amenities etc if they mismanaged it then taxes go up people leave and they redo their books to incentivize the next generation back. America would become more nomadic as people try to strike the best deal every few decades while some political die hards would stick to a state for certain reasons maybe abortion laws or being in an unregulated industry local to that specific state.

[–] Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's absolutely wild, genuinely terrible, and intends something basically no different than what we already have. The biggest difference would be all of your conservative areas immediately collapsing without funding from liberal areas lol. I mean, your whole plan is basically just not having the United States anymore, and assuming that states will continue to play nicely with one another when they no longer have any higher authority to hold them to rules and regulations.

States already have different laws on abortion, gun ownership, taxes, and "personal freedoms". People can already move. This is just such a strange political take, I almost don't know what to say.

[–] ChatGPT@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty much but it sounds pleasant to me though an economic cleansing in a sense if an area is economically uninhabitable it shouldn’t be supported by those that are some states will fail sure if there is economic value another state will utilize the space or form. I imagine the Dakota’s Carolina’s Virginias etc coming together to be more efficient smaller states like Rhode Island would also have to get creative or cease to exist. Those citizens would be allowed to move about the country and find jobs in areas that can support them working raising our economic output in the long run and ending crap like swimming pools in backyards in phoenix or Vegas.

[–] Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't really see how those things are related in any way, since the majority of the population haven't really been economically dependent on the productivity of the land beneath them in quite some time. The reason why liberal states fund while conservative states are constantly struggling with their budgets is because of unsustainable economics favoring businesses while shuffling the burdens onto individuals instead of corporations. It has literally nothing to do with swimming pools in Vegas unless somebody passes a bill banning private swimming pools in Vegas, which seems counter to your desire for freedom. Also, why would states merge and shrink?

Honestly, if you want people to move away from economically uninhabitable areas like Phoenix is steadily becoming (primarily because surviving it will only get more expensive), you're gonna need a large, well-funded federal government to foot the bill for getting millions of people to move away from the Phoenix area. That's millions of units of housing that need to be built elsewhere, millions of tons of possessions that need to be moved, businesses that need to relocate, and employment and healthcare to be managed.

I genuinely don't understand how you arrived at your political solution, especially when it sounds like the problems you want solved are fundamentally incompatible with the Republican party, and simply not perfectly catered to by the democratic. Which, makes sense because literally no party in the US is advocating for deleting the federal government and becoming a loose federation that California will inevitably conquer in a bizarre inversion of Manifest Destiny.

I'm baffled, but you're also rather polite about your strange political dream, so I wish you the best.