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Australian red meat industry says it doesn’t need to meet its self-imposed net zero target
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Feb 2024
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Can you blame them? People buy their products no matter what, animal suffering is just too delicious apparently. And they get substituted like crazy. I found some sandwich "meat" in my lical lidl that i absolutely love, it's based on sunflower seeds. But it's also more expensive than just some beef. You know, the animal that is pretty expensive to get and take care off and feed untill it's old enough to murder and thrrow it into a grinder to make mystery meat. Sunflower seeds. What a clown world. If the plant based industry or whatever you wanna call it would get substituded as hard as the meat industry i would get money for buying groceries.
Can we blame them?
Yes.
Sure, but people still don't stop buying. And money is all that matters. People could just stop, this is bullshit instead of shrugging
People could just stop what? Eating?
Buying meat? Is becoming vegetarian not more expensive in terms of time and money for someone who has a meat diet? Many people do not have the money or luxury to make such a change?
Expecting everyone to become vegetarian is unrealistic. If you're buying meat and all companies you can choose to buy meat from are making the same carbon neutral "commitments", it's not like you can choose the company that will actually follow through.
But anyway, blaming people for the depravity of companies is also not going to fix anything.
Eating meat is 100% an optional and more expensive action that is demonstrably worse for the planet, even aside from ethical concerns, but which the majority of people keep consciously choosing to do even when made aware of the issues and presented with alternatives. Those people are just as responsible as the people actively doing the farming.
This wouldn’t even be considered a controversial statement if it wasn’t for the fact so many participate in it and want to keep making excuses. If a nation hired mercenaries to conduct military operations, you wouldn’t absolve that nation of guilt and say only the mercenaries are at fault, would you?
Is it 100% optional? Are there no dietary conditions that require eating meat? Even if it is optional, I only said that expecting everyone to change is unrealistic, not that it's impossible.
How much do you expect people to sacrifice? If you give up eating meat can you fly to go on vacation? Or are people expected to give up everything in the name of the climate while billionaires jet around and corporations expell endless emissions?
Also, your comparison to mercenaries is bad. If military operations are required for survival (like eating) then why would the nation feel guilty? If the mercenaries say "yes we will only defend that military base and we will not kill everyone in the nearby school" and then they go and kill everyone in the school, why wouldn't they be blamed for not following their orders?
What point are you trying to make here? It's ok for people to support the meat industry because an incredibly small fraction of people need meat? How many people do you know that eat meat? And how many do you know actually need meat for medical reasons? And how many of those specifically require eating red meat, by far the worst offender, the most expensive, and still massively consumed?
"Guys, you don't get it! Doing 100% is hard, so why can't people just do 0%?!?" Also, you can criticize people for eating meat and still criticize billionaires on private jets; but nice whataboutism, I guess.
You don't need to eat meat.
Pray tell, what is the meat industry equivalent of this? You can't not worsen climate change with a meat industry. And before you argue "lab-meat", 1) that also takes a lot of resources currently, and it hasn't been massively adopted so ti's not what people are eating, 2) you know whether you're eating lab-meat. You can't support the meat industry, which you know is responsible for climate change, and then pretend you don't know the consequences. Stop.
But fine, you want another example, think of a hitman. "They only hired the hitman to kill people, they are not morally responsible for the hitman killing people". Except in this case, the hitman is also raising his victims from the ground up and worsening climate change.
You know eating meat, and thereby funding the meat industry, is bad; stop wasting time trying to justify it to yourself and other people and engaging in some kind of double think, and start actually making change for the best.