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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 81 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

So "magical thinking" explains why they believe this stuff in the first place, but what explains why they keep believing it after it doesn't work? Even in a fantasy setting, it doesn't make sense. If you thought vampires couldn't come into your house uninvited but then a vampire did exactly that, you'd run away. These people would lecture the vampire about what his weaknesses really were and then go online and complain that the vampire sucked their blood when he wasn't supposed to.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

why they keep believing it after it doesn’t work

If ~~these~~ any people knew basic logic, religion would be very upset.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're desperate. And they found thier defense mechanism. Having others that also go along with the same fantasy just creates a cycle of denial.

[–] roadkill@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait... did you just describe SovCit beliefs... or Religion in general?

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

Por que no los dos?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 14 points 8 months ago

They're the same picture

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think this is the thing that most confuses me about all these sovcits, they are presented with demonstrable evidence and refuse to accept it

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Every sovcit interaction is answered with either “you win”, “it’ll work itself out in court”, or “the system is ignoring its own rules to win”.

Every prayer is answered with “yes”, “no”, or “later”.

Unfalsifiable claims gonna be unfalsifiable.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

It more or less starts with the mostly true belief that everything is contracts as far as the government is concerned. Then they apply the faulty logic that they can unilaterally withdraw from any contract they feel like. From there everything more or less follows a predictable pattern that they can pick and choose contracts to follow at their discretion.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

As far as I understand, when it doesn’t work for them they just double down, and assume they did something wrong in their arcane incantation of the magic law words, like they didn’t write their name in all caps or they ~~invoked~~ wrote down the wrong ~~spell~~ random legalese phrase.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

When it doesn't work, they're being victimized and can loudly complain about it.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

"I am filming everything! Now, NOW I'm turning into a creature of the shadows, ok? I don't have a treaty with you, Nosferatu. Call our lawyer!" Crying wife: "Which one?"

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

From the little I've seen, it seems like they just think they got the magic incantation wrong somehow.