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The X11 connection is generally an enormous hole in such containment, but yes. Such containment definitely helps. That is why I run as many applications as possible as Flatpaks, as they employ similar countermeasures, and why they're playing an increasingly big role in modern distros.
And it's great that you're risk averse and able to avoid untrusted scripts to that degree. It's just not feasible for the general user, which is why things need to be secure even if a malicious script is mistakenly allowed to execute.
I'm not saying that that specific annoyance is a security measure. I'm saying that the whole paradigm shift that Wayland is is partially motivated by improving security. Such paradigm shifts come with paper cuts, especially in the beginning. But the rough edges are being filed down one by one. That's not to say that Wayland is the answer for everyone yet, nor that it will ever be. There'll always be exceptions. But for the vast majority of users it is, and it helps keep their systems safer than they are without it.
> and why they’re playing an increasingly big role in modern distros.
My modern distros, are you implying if a distro adopts flatpak use it is modern, if not it is antiquated?
Those are dangerous doctrines when foss is meant to provide choice, and it can be a choice to reject certain groups of software.
@Ullebe1
Not at all, seems like you're reading things into it that aren't there.
By modern distros I mean that for the newer variants of multiple large distros (Like Fedora Silverblue and its cousins, openSUSE MicroOS, etc.), even ordinary Ubuntu, Fedora and their derivatives and cousins, across the major DEs like Gnome and KDE, for all of them apps packaged like Flatpaks and Snaps have an increasingly large role.
I'm specifically not saying it's the only way to be modern or that other approaches can't have merit, I'm saying there is a clear trend among some of the largest players in the game.
I think it's dangerous to put words in other peoples mouths and then argue against those imaginary statements, and I think it's sad that you seemingly feel it's the best way to argue for what you believe in. You can do better.
You have a very narrow perception of what a linux distribution/system should be, and that is a heavily commercial windows/macos alternative for people who deny reading.
That audience makes total crap popular!
Is that better now?
@Ullebe1
Not even close, you're even more off base than you were before. I mean what do you even base your ridiculous statements about my opinions and perceptions on?