MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate-speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse
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Would someone who denied, say, the Holocaust not be a bad person because of their 'alleged stances'?
You want to go home, and rethink your life.
At some point you gotta live with em, you can try to tell a tankie or a Trumper the truth and they'll nod along politly but still get drunk and spout nonsense. as long as they ain't starting a militia or beating they wife might as well let the old dog bark
The Holocaust is almost unique in us having an abundance of documentation and evidence of what happened. We have multiple sources, including nazis themselves, giving accurate accounts on both what happened and why. You being willing to compare Holodomor to it is borderline nazi apologia and I would say
In return if it was not for this being a cheap statement trying to assert dominance where there is none.
Ah, of course, I keep forgetting Ukrainians aren't people to tankies.
Uhm, I do not think you have a good understanding of what I am saying if you think I do not care deeply for the Ukrainian people both then and now. I understand that it is upsetting to debate something as horrible as what happened, but that is also why it is important to try to get the narrative right.
What do you think the narrative is?
I think it is debatable to some degree and I am not an authority on the subject. I would rather listen to someone more knowledgeable than myself talk about it.
what is that degree?
It is not nazi apologia.
Have you been to the remainders of any concentration camp? Because I have and the scale and deliberateness of the Holocaust is astonishing. I am not sure anything I see in life will ever compare and you should not talk as if there are.
Your point?
My point being suggesting it is comparable makes it seem you are not treating the Holocaust with the respect it deserves.
Well, I wasn't the one who compared it.
But regardless, genocide is bad, full-stop, end of discussion. Denying genocides happened is bad.