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We're in an obesity epidemic and most people don't know how to cook even very basic meals.

Make space for it, squish other classes if you need. Make it mandatory, everyone has to take it. Maybe even ongoing through multiple grades.

Edit: Rice, beans, and even basic meats are cheap. To eat healthy you don't need your meal to be 100% Bell peppers and tomatoes.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hamburger helper and ground beef is way healthier and cheaper than the fast food or microwave meals that so many people eat.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until you take the sodium content into consideration. Too much salt/sodium causes hog blood pressure, and can lead to an increased chance of stroke or hear attack. So actually it’s healthier than microwave meals or fast food, but not by much

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So actually it’s healthier than microwave meals or fast food

You made my argument for me.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just barely

You missed the major selling point on my comment.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not really, it's healthier. You saying it's not enough does not negate that. Btw you switched from the overwhelming obesity problem to a smaller one of salt. But on the salt front, you also don't need to put in the whole flavour pack. If you don't each much processed food, you may actually need to increase your salt. You see this in very healthy circles, they cut out processed foods and they don't get enough salt in their diet. They have to add it in again. So having some things like hamburger helper while cutting out truly processed foods (should I say hyper processed foods?) is actually about right.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will agree with the hyper processed food comment. I don’t add salt to anything that is processed due to the amount of salt/sodium products they use.

When I make my meals where they are 100% from scratch I do add some salt. On average maybe a 1/2 to 1 tsp of salt. But I do disagree with adding salt to processed foods. And salt can lead to obesity also, due to too much salt intake your body will begin craving sweets to offset the salt. Hence you eat more empty calories from the likes of soda, cakes, candy etc…

What everyone seems to forget is you have to have balance in your nutrition. Unfortunately, for most people, they have squandered away their time to achieve that balance with fad diets, fast food or even hyper processed food. We as a society have become very lazy when it comes to our body’s well being. Ask just about anyone about their meal planning, and they will simply reply with “who has time for that?”

But then complain about being overweight or out of energy. We have forgotten how to eat properly, instead we eat in excess.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I make my meals where they are 100% from scratch I do add some salt

I'm not talking a specific meal or a specific day. If you have no processed food in your diet you will need to add salt. So if you eat processed foods sometimes that will be your salt intake.

I think you're really overplaying this salt thing. Salt is not the reason for this obesity epidemic.

Unfortunately, for most people, they have squandered away their time to achieve that balance with fad diets, fast food or even hyper processed food

Because they don't know how to cook basic meals. This is my whole point. We need to teach people how to cook, make it mandatory.

And you are the slowest cooking when you are a beginner. When you know how to cook it's much easier to bang out a meal. This is also why we need to teach it early so people can get their practice in. In school in the perfect opportunity.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

No salt is not the main cause of obesity, but it does help contribute to it.

The main cause of obesity is the inability to control your food intake.

Snacking on healthy foods is not bad, but eating the amount for a meal as a snack throughout the day is.

I know the half a cup serving isn’t enough for majority of people. Serving sizes are based on caloric intake v activity. But most people don’t feel as though they get enough to eat based on caloric intake. 3000 calories a day may be fine for some people, but not everyone. Once again it’s calories versus activity. And society as a whole has become pretty lazy.